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Post by negru on Nov 2, 2015 0:06:42 GMT 1
Very strange season indeed. Unfortunately the time and motivation are lower and lower season after season. I forgot to buy equipment for supports two weeks this season. I don't think i deserved the second place and it was mainly luck and sometimes brute force that i achieved it (and Puscasu, by the way). Heppie, i had an ego crisis three weeks ago, and i really wanted to prove that the team is still enough. And with this came the best achievement in my peloton career (no 1 in time in Vuelta). I never was able to do this, i really put some effort to think the stages and i'm really happy i won it, making the difference on flat, and not in the mountains (Cosmescu does not have too much mountain skill). I would be happy next season (after this) to get back here, as i know a lot of managers here and is a pleasure to race with you guys.
All in all, i hope to keep playing the game, find some motivation, rethink the long term strategy and improve my team.The victory in Vuelta really increased my spirit regarding peloton, as it was totally unexpected.
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Post by negru on Nov 1, 2015 23:59:40 GMT 1
Haha, the Poulidor of Peloton! Next season will be harder I'm afraid, especially with Evcont back in town, he always manages to take some points away on my favorite terrains (especially Puscasu!). I am still a flat based team, what do you want? I don't know if i trained mountain for two seasons since the restart of the peloton. Puscasu and Bochinsky are from the start in my team, and i think Puscasu, in flat races, is one of the best three guys in the game. With him a had a really good training strategy and he still is very good (and pretty young). The problem is he starts to be very expensive to keep, therefore i am starting to think on selling him. I also know that i have no chance this season, i only promoted out of ego and for the relaxed money from supporters, not because i believe i can improve my results. So,if you want to be the real king on flat, try me
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Post by negru on Apr 22, 2015 16:21:38 GMT 1
Speaking about young riders, i have a 23 yo 10 5.6 0 1 5 7.8, steering 12, balance 14. I think he looks pretty good for his age, and has a great FA in flat. Not for sale, just to brag
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Post by negru on Apr 9, 2015 18:18:23 GMT 1
Checked again, the points were awarded accurately, the problem is the standings of mountain sprints. Paduart was actually the fourth, but is presented as the third. Still, it is a small bug, but in presentation.
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Post by negru on Apr 9, 2015 18:13:37 GMT 1
I think there is an error in mountain point in Div 1.1, race Romont - Romont. My rider Els Paduart should have two mountain points, but he has nill. In the same time, Guala has three, while based on the race results, he should have only one. I did not watch the race, just checked the standings in mountain sprints. Not much of a difference for me, just i don't know what happened.
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Post by negru on Apr 6, 2015 9:46:57 GMT 1
Hi Ab,
As already stated in the past, i'm in, at least count me for around 20-30 shares. Regarding the jobs to be done, I really don't know if i can be of help/ have time to help. I can probably be of some limited help in the financial part.
Regarding your plan, in main parts is great. Related the financial part, i have a couple of comments as this moment: - it would be best to have the new opened account in the country/region where the main payments are to be done. This, in order to not increase the bank charges. Otherwise, for every low payment you migh pay once again the amount as bank charges. - 3 people to sign for a payment. Great in theory, is it practical? The three people probably are from different places/countries? How will they sign? Maybe with a digital signature, but this might raise again the costs.
As said before, i am not against, i am totally for, i am sure we can find answers for all impractical parts.
Kind regards,
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Post by negru on Feb 1, 2015 23:25:17 GMT 1
ElGringo: i've received the message on e-mail. Good idea, but as long as there is no sign from IP, i believe it is futile. Regarding the italian team and the rest of the community as a backup plan, i don't know if it possible (to have more teams in the community trying the same thing). But i believe that if the italian team started the discussion, that they will have the full support of the rest of us, when and if needed. The biggest problem was and is IP. As long as doesn't decide what to do, the game is going to die. And nobody can do anything about it. Whoever it would be to take over the game, there has to be the possibility of discussion with IP, which seems is not. And he may be a very good programmer, i don't doubt it, his social skills seem to be ..... @ab Normaal: why i said in my post that the association has to be somehow legal is that i don't believe that people actually keep an gentleman's agreement. In order to not continue the mistakes done until now, it has to be a clear cooperation, goal and things need to have a solid base. Otherwise, anybody can start to think they are the only one entitled to decide and run the game. And will win the best friend with the programmer @quilleru: I agree, there are more people discussing it, but we're getting nowhere this way. Still, we all just loose our time until IP has a clear official stance about the whole situation. Only from there it makes sense to discuss about take over, plans and so on. And IP doesn't look to say anything. stenes:I don't write, nor read too much here, but i don't exactly understand your post. Is the Italian community trying to do something on its own, or not? I understand just that you would like to continuue playing the came and paying premium for it, if the game would be stable and playable again.
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Post by negru on Jan 31, 2015 10:50:36 GMT 1
Sorry, last post, it looks i'm quite happy that something can be done.
In the end, if we would have a plan, is there any chance to actually talk with IP? I feel he always missed and he doesn't talk to much even with Schizm and ElGringo. And he seems very stubborn. If nothing can be discussed, negotiated with him, all our plans don't make much sense. Is any of you actually able to talk with him? To see if he would actually sell, or he would prefer to see his creation die?
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Post by negru on Jan 31, 2015 10:46:01 GMT 1
Well, then it could be done. I am pretty sure that either Kurtinsc or Mike is a programmer. Nike, Schizm an Melres could do the maintaining, I can do the coördination and the internal communication, then we need a few guys to promote on the internet. And we need another programmer. Also someone who is great with finances. We should definately involve the Italians. There are a lot of players there, they have a tight bund with each other and they are very loyal to the game. Then we need the help of a lot of managers to promote the game. Do it exactly like companies on the stock exchange. Make a 1500 shares of €5 per share. Then we can buy the game and have a networking capital of €2500 Anybody can buy as much shares as they like. If we make profit in the future, it will be divided over the shareholders. And we need to appoint a supervisory board of 5 people who can run the game and need to think of how to involve the shareholders into the decision making. Or am I getting to over enthousiastic now? Added to what you said, i also think we should have a team of 2-3 people redoing the whole wikipedia part (from scratch) and also have kind of a better help for the beginners. How many beginners care to read the whole wikipedia when starting the game? But there are certain actions that could ruin the game from the beginning. An advise on steps at startup would be helpful.
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Post by negru on Jan 31, 2015 10:43:12 GMT 1
One more thing, we have to consider from the beginning that from 300 or so active players we probably lost some more. I don't know if there were anyway more than 100 - 150 actually playing, as i knew people just keeping their teams alive.
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Post by negru on Jan 31, 2015 10:41:39 GMT 1
If we get to some plan, consider me in, too. I'm willing to spend some money to keep peloton alive.
Its quite strange that there are not many comments from the Italian members, as i know that they have a very strong and supportive community. Somehow i expected them to come with a plan.
I would also help with what i can, unfortunately i'm not a programmer and i am not good in making publicity.
Regarding your ideas, they are all interesting, but we have to think how to implement it. I think that to incorporate a business might be complicated, also extra costs (accounting, tax, and so on) and also where in this world (all of us are from different places).
Even i don't believe in such things, i would like a peloton owned by the community. A shareholder thinks only about business, not necessarily the good of the game, while the community cares more about the game in itself.
I think the most important is to be able to get peloton to sustain itself, even if there are no profits, and next step would be to make it profitable. This idea of yours came from the love of the game, not to get rich out of it. Don't forget this. Therefore, i think the whole idea is that even if peloton would make nice profits in the future, to be reinvested.
Also, i think that mike came with the idea to sell it after it starts working. I don't know if a buyer will care so much about us afterwards, or would maybe transform the whole game to suit its interests. This is why i think that if enough of us think we can do something, and also IP agrees with it (he might have a honorific title after all), we should have a clear goal and some plan.
I believe very important at the moment is how much would it cost to keep the game stable. You are all talking about a programmer, but i think that we actually did not have one for the last 2 seasons, or maybe a few hours of IP, if there actually where. So i think that for another season the game could run with limited intervention. Maybe i'm wrong, as i said i don't have expertise here.
One other thing that will probably get discussed if we were to revive peloton is if to continue or to do a reset. For sure i would want to keep my team, but it might be attractive for new users and also for returning one to be an actual new beginning.
I really hope we can do something about it, to have enough players interested in the idea and also to be able being more of us united only by the loyalty to the game to pull off a clear plan.
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Post by negru on Dec 16, 2014 23:55:49 GMT 1
Pretty quiet for some time already. And things start to get more clear now, that we're approaching the end of the season. It's not over yet, in either direction (winning the div and downgrading), but at least is more clear who and for what is fighting.
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Post by negru on Oct 2, 2014 10:23:28 GMT 1
Holla! First of all i wanto to welcome (back) negru (impressive season start as expected ) and the new fellas... and I can see that the nightbiker too is showing us a great start, congrats!... I guess I'll have to battle till the end of the season for the 8th place to not relegate cause my team is on the sunset boulevard... I can't win stages anymore... due to bad cyc or my faults or the level ever higher i don't know but this is the story atm.... I've less time for the game but i'm still having fun with u guys... thx and enjoy! ...uh we all want cirao on the podium this year... Hi Maxz, I always thought you'll gonna be one of the first three winners of the first division. And for sure, your team has a lot of potential. Two seasons ago i wasn't able to stay, and it was one reason the most important: not enough TT compared with the others. I am sure that soon enough i will go down from the podium but i have much better chances to avoid relegation. Therefore, you just have to find what is missing from your team. I don't know why, but i am convinced that you will not relegate, except on purpose. Anyway, pretty silent the forum here. Unexpected results for me until now, not too many hopes for this week, and i am doing great in my objective: i am so fast running from place 9 that for a moment i stopped at the top ))). But the objective stays the same: Run from place 9!
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Post by negru on Sept 19, 2014 23:13:33 GMT 1
! Today, as usual, the return of Puscasu Not really. Last time in division 1, Puscasu has not been able to win a single stage. This time he came more motivated and promised to his colleagues that he will be the team leader, scoring as many points as possible!
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Post by negru on Sept 14, 2014 23:21:39 GMT 1
Hey guys, i knew why i liked so much this division: the most interesting and pleasant forum. ElGringo, really high skills you have there. With these skills, i don't really understand your results last season, as these cyclists look really good.
Good luck to you all, and chakra, hang on, you can do it!
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