today's race 8/3

[geunis]

I want an explanation for this.
In today's race I have something weird.
one of my better cyclists ends in 73th place

This is the one
Flat: 3 Downhill: 0
Hill: 2 Sprint: 3
Mountain: 3 Time trial: 3
73 op 10:15
2 fall

it's not normal because he always ended in top 10 in other races.
And another cyclist of mine is much faster but not as good


Flat: 4 Downhill: 0
Hill: 1 Sprint: 1
Mountain: 0 Time trial: 1
28 op 5:41
1flat
This one is normal because there was a fair amount of hill and mountain so it's impossible my other cyclist ends so late.

to compare with a somewhat equal cyclist today
Flat: 3 Downhill: 2
Hill: 3 Sprint: 1
Mountain: 3 Time trial: 2
6 op 1:13
he has more downhill and a bit more hill but this difference can't take over 9minutes.

Who has an explanation for this?



And I would like to add that this cyclist (1st one) is my sprinter and climber.
He always gathered points for this in any race he started. Even in TdF untill 2days ago with that recalculations. After that he didn't gather points at all anymore.

[Schizm]

yesterday after the race a bug with falls was fixed (it appears that there was no time loss at all before that)

[Sjorskeum]

As I wrote in the other topic, before somebody felt the need to edit my post and remove complete contents:


THERE SHOULD BE MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS IN THE ACTUAL GAME


One cannot expect people to read the forums or come search for any possible changes here.

If a change is made, write a short message under announcements. Or have a separate page which can be titled and linked to as 'Latest updates' or such.

That could look like:

Date Update/Change


Very simple, very overviewable, very informative.

Would make the game more transparant to the users who NOT frequent this forum. And even to those who do, it's hard to catch everything.

[Schizm]

I agree with you on the announcements but there is no need to shout ! please stay calm ...

[paulhenri]

I have the same problem (John Bidon, division Belgium 4:24)
My best cyclist ended last today, with 3 falls.
The days before he ended in the top 10 with more than 10 falls.

[Sjorskeum]

I'm not shouting, I'm putting emphasis on an important part of my message. A part which I've mentioned a few times before (without the emphasis) but obviously got ignored.

As for being calm... ask coureurtjen what I write when I'm upset
I'm calm.


*edit*
another post popped up in between...

you see what the result is of making impulsive changes and never bothering to inform users. People don't have a clue what's happening.

You also see why I was arguing the point that the changes shouldn't be made during the Tour.

Good luck I say, I'm not going to bother with any possible discussion anymore.

[Schizm]

I still believe it was the best compromise , both sides had to give in a bit, some people can accept that some obviously don't ... but as for the announcement I'm with you all the way.

And as for your upset post, I've read it, coureurtjen has posted it on the moderator-forum so your message could reach IP after all (without the disturbing factor it would create on the public forums).

[Sjorskeum]

Offtopic: That's probably why my runner fell twice today then. IP's revenge

But you get my point regarding my being calm or no, right


And I like the compromis, I have been arguing for a new algorithm for falls/flats for quite some time now. Although it's too soon to judge it by 1 race result.

[Il Padrino]

I'll make the announcement when I'm home (tonight).

It's the same algorithm, by the way.. only 1 number in the formula was changed.

[Sjorskeum]

Since I don't know the original formula, that doesn't mean much to me. Besides, 1 number can make quite a difference, depending on what it does in the formula.

But if all that's changed now is the absolute number of falls being lowered, I find that a pity. I much rather see a larger impact of random, so that good runners more often 'have a bad day' and not end up top if they happen to fall and/or get flat(s).

[geunis]

so all those lost minutes is because he fell twice?
That is ridiculous in my opinion.
Losing some time is ok. But not this much.
cyclists with not so high steering/bravery are useless now.

[geunis]

just to let you know what I'm talking about


His recent form is: 7-8-7-8-4

that's that cyclist.
He always ended in top 10 and because such a new rule he doesn't even make top 70?
If I knew this I would have sold him days ago because he is worthless now.

[Schizm]

2 falls would correspond with something around 6 minutes (it is actually 6 km extra for internal calculations) and that is how it should have worked the whole time (flats are 1 km/ 1 minute but that was counted form the beginning) as a counter measure IP has agreed to lower the amount of falls so normally that number would have been higher without the changes too !

[discolex]

Actually it isn't a new rule. The rule just wasn't implemented well.
He is now.

[geunis]

great thing to let people now. That rule was there before I know but I never lost thatmuch so I kept him. If I knew this before I would have sold him first thing.
Because he is useless now.


But still
38. Mispreuve 0 0 +6:52 BVBA Isimobewerking
39. Van Thuyne 0 0 +8:04 BVBA Isimobewerking
40. Van Breda 0 0 +8:04 BVBA Isimobewerking
41. Charlier 0 0 +8:04 beestjs
42. de Vreeze 0 0 +8:04 beestjs
43. Sonneville 0 0 +8:04 The Irish Rover
44. Runhaar 0 0 +8:04 The Irish Rover
45. Meynaert 0 0 +8:04 Sunweb PROjob
46. Scheldewaert 0 0 +8:04 beestjs
47. Noppen 0 1 +8:04 RSCA
48. Tuite 0 0 +8:04 apolloon
49. Van Zegbroeck 0 0 +8:04 Klaazrd
50. Michaud 0 0 +8:04 Sunweb PROjob
51. Maurice 0 0 +8:04 apolloon
52. Gagné 0 0 +8:04 The Irish Rover
53. Angelus 0 0 +8:04 Sunweb PROjob
54. Collignon 0 0 +8:04 BVBA Isimobewerking
55. Cassaert 0 0 +8:04 apolloon
56. Pintelon 0 0 +8:04 apolloon
57. Dierick 0 0 +8:04 beestjs
58. Spies 0 0 +9:05 beestjs
59. Rentinck 1 0 +9:05 BVBA Isimobewerking
60. Nossaint 0 0 +9:05 The Irish Rover
61. Albarede 0 0 +9:05 Mapei-GB
62. Catteeuw 0 0 +9:05 De Bollers
63. Rasschaert 0 0 +9:05 Mapei-GB
64. Landman 0 0 +9:05 De Bollers
65. Hemelrijk 0 0 +9:05 Mapei-GB
66. Gosselin 0 0 +9:05 De Bollers
67. Van Severen 0 0 +9:05 De Bollers
68. Drent 0 0 +9:05 De Bollers
69. Weerdt 0 0 +9:05 Big Bocca
70. Dubost 0 0 +9:05 Big Bocca
71. Decrop 0 0 +9:05 Big Bocca
72. Ammerlaan 1 0 +9:05 apolloon
73. Badoux 0 2 +10:15 Houthakkers


My cyclist is 73'
all the cyclist above him are from bot teams. They alle have 0%fitness or 35%
It's ridiculous they all end before him.