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Post by superbelg on Feb 28, 2007 20:21:16 GMT 1
there is are cyclist in my division called porteman . he is 1m65 and he weights 97kg!!!!!! he is a fat boy and he wins tour de suisse and other races , this isn't normal isn't it? he is the best cyclist of my division 2.2 he rides the tour de suisse and got 85% left :s amazing but if this is not a bug , what a stupid game is this then?
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Post by ando on Feb 28, 2007 20:27:07 GMT 1
don't be harsh! consider this th begining of the club, some cyclists will be left outside (the bonus for weight and hight is percentual, now isn't so big cause the skills are quite small, but in time 10-20% will make the difference)! what u want all the riders to be merkxs and armstrongs?
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Post by coureurtjen on Feb 28, 2007 20:27:12 GMT 1
it's possible: there was an condition update sunday and the bodymass of a cyclist: see other topics
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Post by superbelg on Feb 28, 2007 20:32:27 GMT 1
yea i know that the updates are at sunday but a man who is so fat couldn't win such a races in real life :s no i don't want amstrongs and merckxs but merckx is also fat now ! could he win the tour de suisse now? i don(t believe al this sh*t !
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Post by ando on Feb 28, 2007 20:36:48 GMT 1
you didn't get why i said! let me put it this way: with time this kind of riders will have great penaltyes compared to other riders, now the skills are small (not greater than 5 i think) so 20% isn't much but when this skills will be 10+ pe % will affect the race much much more so what you want all riders to be perfect ? the guy has a dream, at some point he'll realise that he's not made for this sport .... he might be a fat boy, for for now he's more powerfull that the others
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Post by superbelg on Feb 28, 2007 20:42:56 GMT 1
lol i just said that i dont need merckxs and amstrongs in this game ! so if i buy a boy for 50 000 or somthing he will beat riders from 1 000 000 and more? should steegmans or gilbert beat basso or other riders? why don't we make a rugby game of peloton? then porteman will be the best player and then i should't be mad !
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Post by ando on Feb 28, 2007 20:48:09 GMT 1
i said about merkxs and armostrong to suggest to you that the teams are at theyr begining, theyr poor and bearly got 12 riders (when u havne't lots of money you can't be picky) some of them are heavy but strong, now all of them aren't trained a lot so he can win races but in the future .... gezzzzz read what i write and not put words in my mouth ... so what in 6th rugby division play only 120kg's prrops ?
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dadinho
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Post by dadinho on Feb 28, 2007 20:48:51 GMT 1
@ Ando... So what you mean is; as cyclist evolve and grow stronger this fat boys won't do so well? But why woudn't these one's evolve as well and keep winning? It would suprise me it's all muscles
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Post by ando on Feb 28, 2007 20:51:05 GMT 1
because at some point this small details are going to make a difference! offcourse he will be trained, but he will always have to overcome this native problem he can still try, but the 10% aren't in his favor
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dadinho
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Post by dadinho on Feb 28, 2007 20:55:45 GMT 1
But what I'm wondering is, is whether these body mass indexes are calculated in in the results? Do they really affect the race or is it nothing but a decoration?
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Post by Schizm on Feb 28, 2007 21:04:05 GMT 1
A lighter cyclist will do better on hill, mountain, and downhill , but this a smaller percentage it is the skill that counts the most
(BTW : a taller cyclists does better on flat, sprint, TT)
so a bad BMI has no massive effect , but if you want some irrealistic cyclists go for those who top 2 meters and way below 60 kg. In real life they also would be not suited for professional cycling, but in peloton they will.
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Post by ando on Feb 28, 2007 21:06:17 GMT 1
by larger you mean taller
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Post by superbelg on Feb 28, 2007 21:06:44 GMT 1
how long will it take that he isn't so good anymore? 5seasons? when some riders maybe have 9 or 10 in a skill? or maybe we should wait untill he stops riding ? when does a renner stops cycling? the builders of this game have a lot of work to do !
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Post by superbelg on Feb 28, 2007 21:08:10 GMT 1
so schimz why does porteman do win races on hills and mountains ? he weigths 97kg ?
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Post by ando on Feb 28, 2007 21:12:37 GMT 1
well if he's skill 5 in mountain he will beat a skill 4 even if the other is lighter he's just more powerfull ... 20% more powerfull on the moutains! when he'll be 10 and the other 9 he'll only be 10% better and the 10% weight penalty will make the difference
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