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Post by wheelnut on Apr 3, 2023 6:23:38 GMT 1
Seems most of my cyclists are not happy? Is it because I am not paying them enough? I have four of them up for contract renewal in three weeks time. I tend to just choose the default suggested new contract terms. Should I be given them more to increase their mood? And does this affect their cycling performance in races?
CONTRACTS Cyclist Mood Wage Pts (prev) Pts Races wks D. Ofsak pleased 15.777 € 451 297 23 3 Options J. Giancarlo not very h.. 8.483 € 227 248 19 3 Options S. Brokins not very h.. 2.511 € 17 16 12 3 Options M. Sebastion not very h.. 2.059 € 3 8 14 3 Options
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Post by rarau on Apr 3, 2023 7:08:48 GMT 1
i have the same problem, but at my are ''ok''.
T. Bratu ok 16.876 Dita ok 12.320 € G. Duta ok 15.793 € N. Saguna ok 11.065 € B. Sarzynski ok 11.418 € T. Van Hoorebeeck not very h.. 10.502 € K. Burrichter ok 10.828 € D. Bartels ok 11.110 € C. Beaumonte content 2.700 € M. van den Dikkenberg ok 6.766 € M. Guery ok 9.880 € C. D'Antimi ok 6.860 €
i have some young, pleased, i dont know why/how
only 3 of my stars have good moods
B. Van Derkrieken delighted 57.080 € C. Moysons very happy 26.210 € E. Petrescu happy 20.810 €
results? but S. Noica content 15.433 € have won 409 points and he is only content
also all that ''ok'' cyclsits have won at least 200p
Moysons and Petrescu have normal wages, not high
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Post by Poekie on Apr 3, 2023 11:02:03 GMT 1
Do you know about this? - mood will be recalculated weekly, after the sunday-update ! - the goal was to base the mood primarly on the wage that is payed in respect tot the transfervalue, but also age and duration now have a bigger effect. - not only underpayment but also (serious) overpayment will result in a lower mood ! - victories/jerseys earned in the last year (52 actual weeks) will raise the mood. - extra moodpoints for bonusses promissed (including wage increase/number of races) can be scored. - mood changes after a contract negotiation will disappear to prevent the kind of abuse we witnessed in the past ! Though that is from 2021 (might have been changes). See peloton.proboards.com/thread/9930/mood-update-season-30
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Post by Mike on Apr 3, 2023 12:10:50 GMT 1
I would'nt worry about this to much. Since the last changes, cyclists do'nt ask rediculous wages anymore, wich was the main reason. The downside is that mood changes in positive direction will occure a lot less than before. But don't worry, it does'nt sound good whet a cyclists mood is ok or not verry happy but these are only words. Look at this, then you will see that these sentences still are mediocre wants to leave the team as fast as possible very unhappy unhappy unsettled not very happy ok content pleased happy very happy delighted
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Post by naspa on Apr 3, 2023 20:40:37 GMT 1
Well, that is life. I am not happy too. But well, if I say I want to leave, my wife says no. Have to deal with it.
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Post by headcase on Apr 4, 2023 8:18:19 GMT 1
What I mostly see is a strong relation between the Wage-Transfervalue-ratio and the mood: W/TV | Mood | 0,32% | not very happy | 0,44% | not very happy | 0,45% | ok | 0,47% | ok | 0,53% | ok | 0,53% | ok | 0,54% | ok | 0,55% | ok | 0,60% | ok | 0,61% | ok | 0,65% | ok | 0,65% | ok | 0,66% | content | 0,71% | ok | 0,75% | content | 0,79% | content | 0,81% | content | 0,82% | content | 0,85% | content | 0,89% | pleased | 0,92% | content | 0,98% | content | 1,03% | happy | 1,09% | pleased | 1,58% | delighted | 1,71% | delighted | 1,88% | happy |
The content one with a 0,66% has a win this season lifting his mood a little bit. The same for the pleased one at 0,89%. Give 'em cash and they are happy. naspa will you make the wife comparison on this one too?
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Post by berdios on Apr 23, 2023 12:41:12 GMT 1
With the start of the new season the new mood calculation should come in effect. It took me more (re)thinking the concept as I expected (on already limited time) , so I have only finished my "homework" today. - mood will be recalculated weekly, after the sunday-update ! - the goal was to base the mood primarly on the wage that is payed in respect tot the transfervalue, but also age and duration now have a bigger effect. - not only underpayment but also (serious) overpayment will result in a lower mood ! - victories/jerseys earned in the last year (52 actual weeks) will raise the mood. - extra moodpoints for bonusses promissed (including wage increase/number of races) can be scored. - mood changes after a contract negotiation will disappear to prevent the kind of abuse we witnessed in the past ! So I only just finished a simulation and was surprised how high some wages are (I already knew the lows). One cyclist even managed to score a negative mood by paying almost 10 times the normal wage ! (There is a correction afterwards to keep it in our boundaries, but still). People in this position should break contracts asap. P.S. : The requested wage by the cyclists also has been lowered to give people a better negotiation position. and and another question TIP : roughly speaking 1% of the transfervalue is considered a normal wage, the best moods (without bonuspoints) can be reached somewhere between 2 to 3 %, if you pay 4% or more you are actually scoring a lowerr mood. I've checked a few of my riders and none have the 1% of there TV, so according to the text above they will not have a good mood. OK but if they would have at least 1% of their TV the team would be very expensive. This way rich teams can pay enough wage to rase the mood and poor teams can not. Maybe do something about the calbulation of the TV? make the TV much lower?
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Post by Poekie on Apr 24, 2023 10:27:13 GMT 1
I agree that the calculation of transfer value is something that can be improved.
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