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Post by negru on Feb 11, 2013 22:01:20 GMT 1
I agree with you. I know i have no chance in stages with mountain longer than 20km.
I think anyway that with the new engine the game is going in a nicer and more interesting and more tactical challenging direction, still a lot of fine tuning is required.
I think that also too many flat stages are won by attackers, while it would make more sense that attackers are caught with 10-20 kms before the finish. I benefit at this part, but I believe it shouldn't be like this.
We have to ask ourself another question. The game is only at season 5, the cyclists are not mature yet in terms of skills. It may be the case that what doesn't make sense now, it would with better and more equal between principal skills cyclists. So changes made now could interfere with our gaming experience later. It is debatable, but who knows.
Anyway, for me it is more challenging that it was the first seasons. I didn't play v1 (Actually only one season), but i feel is more interesting with the new engine. And also on v1, in my second season the mountain trainers won everything. Me and my colleague in the group training flat finished on places four-five i think very far from the first ones. And we won every flat race. So i'm not complaining, i feel i have better chances now, with the new engine.
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Post by negru on Feb 5, 2013 17:48:17 GMT 1
As already said, in the mountain stages i should just pick randomly five cyclists and put in the race, because any and all of them have the same chance to win, which is 0. Actually, i just hope to steal a few points from time to time, but i think i have no chance in this group.
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Post by negru on Feb 5, 2013 0:43:13 GMT 1
chakra: I suppose the two cyclists you are talking about are both yours. I recognise i didn't have time today to check the race, and now it's not working for me. But i see two possibilites: 1. I feel that the peloton, on some surfaces doesn't leave behind the weak ones. On flat, the two cyclists you're talking about would be in the same group (i suppose no attacks), on hill the average skill in the peloton is pretty low, therefore slow speed, the same on donwhill. This is why most cyclists left behind are on mountain, being the only surface when differences are clear. I suppose that on flat the two cyclists you're talking about stayed in the same group and the one with better flat was lost on other portion of the race (probably mountain, possible downhill) 2. I don't know if i remember right, but i think there is also current ability in the race. In the last seasons i had a few cyclists which race by race performed worse than other cyclists with lower or equal skills. I tried, even if sometimes i lost some money, to sell this type of cyclists as they don't bring any benefit. I still have one for which i had hope, looks like this season will be his last in my team. @maxz Thank you for your compliment, but i don't know if it deserved. I have pretty scarce free time this period and when i choose my tactics i only look at my team. I have no idea about the competition, besides Rats with whom i was a colleague also last season. Therefore, i try every race to enhance the skills of my cyclists, regardless of the other teams. Today, i just hoped that Stanga will have a good attack on downhill, that if anybody attacked him before he will be able to catch up and that probably nobody will attack with him on downhill. And i was lucky and it worked. I hope tomorrow i will actually get to watch the race. Seems it was interesting.
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Post by negru on Jan 31, 2013 15:26:31 GMT 1
I guess they have very high sprint skill. Is it correct Maxz? I guess high 6 or even 7 sprint? I don't know about PAN's riders, but Stanga does not have a high skill in sprint. I actually expected being a stage with a lot of hill that Grnman will have a better result. It looks that i still don't understand how the game works. I suppose that not a lot of hillers participated in this race today. Congratulations for the victory, PAN! For me the result was better than i expected, Stanga participated in the race because i didn't have other ideas. If i really knew he has chances to win the race, probably i would have put him 100%. Nice lesson for the future.
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Post by negru on Jan 30, 2013 18:02:18 GMT 1
I hate flat races! As others, myself included, hate races with more than 10 km of mountain. And there is a lot of such races. ;D
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Post by negru on Jan 30, 2013 18:01:28 GMT 1
Really nice race. I actually wanted to check the whole race from the begining and when i saw that Puscasu was most of the time in the second group, attacking later than the other cyclists, i started loosing confidence in his result. I'm just sorry that Bratiano couldn't do better, i had expectancies for him to finish in the first group, even if the last. yep, I was sure at the last point I can get top 4 places, cause my guys was all alone, but puscasu came in and won the sprint... it'll be next time! I hope Puscasu will also win next time! When he is not participating, you can win the race! ;D Now really, for me it was exciting that he was able in the end to close the gap. Even without winning, something like this make me get attached to the cyclist. And when you think two seasons ago i really wanted do sell him. Hopefully nobody will tell him this.
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Post by negru on Jan 30, 2013 14:15:23 GMT 1
ow what a pity! I lost... 4 of mines vs evcont's one... arghh! anw good race, i'm 2nd now... Tomorrow will try again... Really nice race. I actually wanted to check the whole race from the begining and when i saw that Puscasu was most of the time in the second group, attacking later than the other cyclists, i started loosing confidence in his result. I'm just sorry that Bratiano couldn't do better, i had expectancies for him to finish in the first group, even if the last.
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Post by negru on Jan 29, 2013 21:51:56 GMT 1
Hi all,
Seems we have a nice group, with a lot of talk on the forum. This is really enjoyable.
My objective for this season is to finish top 5. I don't know if it will be possible, especially when the real mountains begin, but i'll try.
I have no chance for top 2, as i feel there are much stronger teams in our group than mine. Also, at the moment i do not have much time for the game, and my tactics probably are not the best.
Good luck to everybody and i hope we'll have a challenging season. Also i hope that nobody will give up, as i think it hurts the game and the competition.
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Post by negru on Oct 5, 2012 14:56:22 GMT 1
I need to get my act together. I've hardly scored a point for ages I think the group is very balanced and everybody has a big chance. I am curious what will happen in the big tours. I have no expectancies from the GIRO, as i don't have really good mountaineers.
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Post by negru on Sept 26, 2012 23:00:11 GMT 1
Looks like we are the only ones who want to discuss here. I also don't understand at all the new engine. As it look the victory of Parlanti was sheer luck. He also has a pretty bad skill in sprint so i don't know how he did the attack that race. I'm trying to adjust to the realities, theoretically i have pretty good flat riders, but these races they were nowhere the podium. Hopefully everybody will survive financially and we will also understand how the engine works. The good thing is i don't have burned riders and still enough flat ones for the next races.
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Post by negru on Sept 22, 2012 11:14:19 GMT 1
Yes, he did race at 70%. He did have to 2 helpers though, but one of them managed to keep up with the big group, so he was not of too much help in the end . What annoys me though that it's no problem for the mountain guys to keep up during the Flat parts with the same 70%. I know it's much more realistic than before but due to this huge turn-around compared to the previous engine it just feels like you are being punished for training flat in the past. I agree with Negru that it should be a big help if I get my guys to mountain 4 or 5, I am just not so happy to dump my 1mln multi-skilled trainer that I bought last week (without mountain of course, stupid me). Then do not dump it. Raise first the hill skill to your riders and the sprint skill, if you have on your purchased trainer. There a lot of stages with flat and hill, and no mountain, at least in Tour de France there are a couple. If you already made an investment, don't dump it, use it efficiently. And, at the end of the season, if you still feel you need mountain, change the trainer at that point. It is clear that we will have specialized teams on types of races. It is not possible to have a team prepared for all types of races. I do myself think of buying a trainer with 15-15-15, but i did not yet choose the skills.
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Post by negru on Sept 22, 2012 10:09:38 GMT 1
Am I the only one that feels that flat has become quite worthless in the new Race Engine? During the flat parts of the race I do not seem to be able to make a big difference against the mountain guys and once the road goes up a little bit my guys are dropped immediately. In a race like Civitavecchia - Marsciano during the Tirreno with 148km flat and 7km mountain I would expect my 11-2-2 guy to put in a good effort, but instead he doesn't even get the opportunity to sprint because he is dropped on the small climb. Since every race in the schedule seems to contain some mountain it looks like I am quite screwed at the moment with all my flat riders and I am forced to buy a mountain trainer. You're not the only one who feels this way. But it's debatable which would be the best strategy in this case. Maybe just to raise a little bit the mountain skill (let's say until 5) and then continue with flat. Otherwise, if you change your trainer, maybe it would be better to take a multiskill one.
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Post by negru on Sept 21, 2012 21:56:30 GMT 1
So my point is, if, as you sau, they do 1 and 2 and 3, i have the following question. I have in a mountain race two helpers, one very good flat cyclist and one mountain cyclist with chances to win the stage.
Which one would the 2 helpers actually help? The flat cyclist to stay in a better group on the mountain and have chances in the GC or the mountaineer to catch some escapees for example and win the stage?
Because at the moment they look to be on their own. Today, on the 16 km of mountain (not that much in my opinion), my two helpers left my flat star on his own and he lost around 40 seconds. Why didn't they help him? Or they did help, but with their help 16 km of mountain was too much for him?
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Post by negru on Sept 21, 2012 21:36:27 GMT 1
Your idea sound pretty interesting,but perhaps it is really complicate at the moment to implement it. But it would be interesting to have something like that.
For me atm it is totally unclear which is the actual role of the helpers: 1. to help a team mate in the same group on a portion of terrainn where he is weak? My helpers didn't look to actually help my cyclist today
2. to increase the speed of the peloton to catch up with the escapees? Doesn't really seem so, as you also stated
3. to help a final sprinter? How good should they be to actually help?
Taking in consideration points 1 and 2, if it really is the case, how would a helper decide which one to do?
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Post by negru on Sept 21, 2012 16:07:01 GMT 1
As far as I understood, a single cyclist escaped mainly counts on his TT capacity... maybe part of the explanation lies there. And by the way, I doubt that everyone puts a 100% for this 3 days tour... have you checked the fitness today of those cyclists? I just did. 1. Badalotti only went at 95% 2. at least 15 cyclists had - starting with 90% fitness - at an effort of 95% or more. (so indeed: not 30 but only about 15) About the TT capacity. Nope. That would be too easy. That would make TT by far the most important skill. I didn't check your race, but i think that maybe we should compare Badalotti's spees on each part of the race with the average speed of the peloton. The problem is we don't know how the peloton speed is calculated. An old joke said a pack of animal has the speed of the slowest of them. Here, the slowest cyclists should be left behind. The question is ofter how much time and how many of them. I'll try to give a possible example: we have 30 cyclists of which 10 are skill 10, 8 are skill 9 and so on. At the beginning we have a speed of the peloton. After a time, the slowest cyclists should be left behind and the speed of the peloton should increase. But it continues to be the average speed of the members. What i'm trying to say is that maybe there are 25 cyclists with 100% and pretty good skills, but it may take a lot of time until they leave behind all others and until that point the average speed is much lower than the individual speed. Also, in real life the speed of the peloton is dicated by the teams which relay. In the game, its unclear for me who relays and how. I think from what i've seen that the helpers should do something here, but it depends on their number and skill. From the cyclists who were on 100%, i don't know how many were helpers. It's just a guess!
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