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Post by Genomico on Feb 11, 2007 2:06:21 GMT 1
This has been requested in the beta as well. I was against it then and I stall am now Can you please explain me why? I don't see any disadvantage in it...
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Post by coureurtjen on Feb 11, 2007 10:06:39 GMT 1
I've already told you one
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Post by itgen on Feb 12, 2007 12:37:56 GMT 1
Why are you against it..? I think it's a very good idea.. You can use a trainer with multiple skills, now having that seems a bit useless (it's not, but it seems that way) And it would be something to distinguish Peloton.. Maybe you could slower the rate of training a bit, or put in a factor that discourages switchg training for a rider a lot. But I definately like the idea...
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Post by ando on Feb 12, 2007 12:45:31 GMT 1
good ideea! maybe slow all training by 10% for every different kind of training (so for example training only mountain the speen is 100% of what is now, but training mountain, flat and hill would be only 80% of the normal speed)! or maybe make the percent a bit difefrente like 1 - 100%, 2 - 90%, 3 -75%, 4 -50% this will simulate a waste of the trainer abilityes trying to cover all different kinds of training!
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Post by Il Padrino on Feb 12, 2007 13:39:04 GMT 1
Ok, thàt is a good idea. I didn't like individual training, because you lose that tactical aspect, but making the effect different according to the amount of different training is a good solution.
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Post by Ambi on Feb 12, 2007 13:39:56 GMT 1
I'm going to stick with 1 training
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Post by stefkeswoon on Feb 12, 2007 21:32:32 GMT 1
I'm not yet decided about multiple training, or training per cyclist.
But if it would ever be the case, i'd definitly decrease the profits mentioned above; something like 1 training-100% , 2 different training types at 70% , 3 - 45% ... Otherwise rich teams have a giant advantage because they can afford multiskill trainers and get a lot more out of it. (The advantage they have now is ok.)
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Post by leemalone on Feb 12, 2007 22:21:11 GMT 1
I'm against, this would be bad for the transfermarket.
Everybody will just keep on training their own players for ages. After a while this game will become very boring, like many other online managergames that wanted to be more realistic
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Post by itgen on Feb 12, 2007 22:54:35 GMT 1
Sounds good.... And I don't agree that it's bad for the Transfermarket. You would still have to be able to buy a pretty decent coach to train every skill.... So noone will train all skills to just one rider..
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Post by box on Feb 13, 2007 14:46:27 GMT 1
I think you guys are missing Geno's point that you can still only train 1 skill per rider. This way you get either a 'day'-rider, which we get anyway from the current trainingprocess or a 'tour'-rider which has multi-skills but not excelling in 1 skill.... For the record I like Geno's idea
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Post by Ambi on Feb 13, 2007 15:56:24 GMT 1
I don't because that means people with a trainer with 20 on everything can make riders how they want to, if you want to train more skills you have to lose some training See it like this: if they all train the same they can train in group and they are happy but if there are less people who train together they won't be so happy
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Post by box on Feb 13, 2007 16:44:02 GMT 1
I don't because that means people with a trainer with 20 on everything can make riders how they want to, if you want to train more skills you have to lose some training See it like this: if they all train the same they can train in group and they are happy but if there are less people who train together they won't be so happy instead of doing that you could better have the wage of the trainer increase disproportional. A 20-skill trainer asks 5333 (normal mood), a 20-20 trainer asks 10666 (double the 20-skill trainer) why not have him ask a minimum of 12.500, a 20-20-20 25.000 a week etc. etc. ? This was it's less profitable to use a multi-skilled trainer yet you can choose to use a 10-10-10 trainer instead of a 20-0-0 trainer...
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Post by Ambi on Feb 13, 2007 16:58:16 GMT 1
but if you choose 10-10-10 you have less training on everything so then we're back at where we came from: let a coach train less when he has to train more
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Post by Il Padrino on Feb 13, 2007 18:55:31 GMT 1
I'm against, this would be bad for the transfermarket. Everybody will just keep on training their own players for ages. After a while this game will become very boring, like many other online managergames that wanted to be more realistic Not when there's a penalty to the amount cyclists train when multiple skills are trained. In that case you'd have the choice between either focus on 1 skill and get 100% training or focus on 2 skills and get, for example, 75% training on both skills. This would give you the choice to either train just one skill (like how it is now) or train a few skills, but with less efficiency. Obviously, most people will then choose to train 1 skill, which makes me wonder why I'd change the current system anyway. Maybe just to give people the liberty to choose.
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Post by ando on Feb 13, 2007 18:59:06 GMT 1
there is one kind of training that will gain afther this: fitness! it will be good for most ppl to traind two skills at 75%, the ones you use in a big tour you select to be trained in fitness and the other in the other skill i tend not to be ok with this ...
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