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Post by ElGringo on Jan 23, 2013 16:45:02 GMT 1
How can a sprinter at 100% with 1.8-2.8-10.5 (F-H-M) loose contact while a helper at 70% with 1.2-2.2-10.8 stays in the first group? (both 95% fitness and equal weight) So somehow the helper has an advantage. Perhaps because a helper can counter an attackgroup while the sprinter stays in the original peloton??? Or does the helper has some secret bonusses from other teammates that the sprinter hasn't? Strange indeed...
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Post by NikeBoy on Jan 23, 2013 21:33:15 GMT 1
How can a sprinter at 100% with 1.8-2.8-10.5 (F-H-M) loose contact while a helper at 70% with 1.2-2.2-10.8 stays in the first group? (both 95% fitness and equal weight) So somehow the helper has an advantage. Perhaps because a helper can counter an attackgroup while the sprinter stays in the original peloton??? Or does the helper has some secret bonusses from other teammates that the sprinter hasn't? Wow, this was realy really weird It took me at least 10 resimulations and deeply debugging to find this very serious bug !!! In the end was a very well hidden index issue ;D And in very rare conditions this has actually a visible effect on the outcome of the race !! Indeed, your sprinter should have never been dropped by the peloton. On the contrary, when I solved the bug and resimmed, he won the race I am very sorry that you have lost this race because of that, but I am very thankful that you have revealed this bug I have mailed the solution to IP, hopefully he can recompile the RE very soon and put it on the site...
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xmike
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Post by xmike on Jan 24, 2013 23:20:31 GMT 1
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Post by Genomico on Jan 25, 2013 3:27:18 GMT 1
Wow, this was realy really weird It took me at least 10 resimulations and deeply debugging to find this very serious bug !!! In the end was a very well hidden index issue ;D And in very rare conditions this has actually a visible effect on the outcome of the race !! Indeed, your sprinter should have never been dropped by the peloton. On the contrary, when I solved the bug and resimmed, he won the race I am very sorry that you have lost this race because of that, but I am very thankful that you have revealed this bug I have mailed the solution to IP, hopefully he can recompile the RE very soon and put it on the site... Thanks for solving and debugging It's good to know my tactic was a good one. If I need the extra 60 points or the extra $100,000 I'll start to shout though For now I can very well live with your kiss ;D
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Post by NikeBoy on Jan 25, 2013 6:50:13 GMT 1
Wow, this was realy really weird It took me at least 10 resimulations and deeply debugging to find this very serious bug !!! In the end was a very well hidden index issue ;D And in very rare conditions this has actually a visible effect on the outcome of the race !! Indeed, your sprinter should have never been dropped by the peloton. On the contrary, when I solved the bug and resimmed, he won the race I am very sorry that you have lost this race because of that, but I am very thankful that you have revealed this bug I have mailed the solution to IP, hopefully he can recompile the RE very soon and put it on the site... Thanks for solving and debugging It's good to know my tactic was a good one. If I need the extra 60 points or the extra $100,000 I'll start to shout though For now I can very well live with your kiss ;D Thanks for your sportsmanship !! In the mean time IP has uploaded the fix, so this should not happen anymore (~cross fingers~)
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xmike
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Post by xmike on Jan 25, 2013 11:46:41 GMT 1
I was saying the same thing. But. Why IP is not showing himself around anymore? Fear of the Dark ?
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Post by ElGringo on Jan 25, 2013 14:44:50 GMT 1
Thanks for solving and debugging It's good to know my tactic was a good one. If I need the extra 60 points or the extra $100,000 I'll start to shout though For now I can very well live with your kiss ;D Thanks for your sportsmanship !! In the mean time IP has uploaded the fix, so this should not happen anymore (~cross fingers~) Nice
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Post by champadero on Feb 4, 2013 15:03:58 GMT 1
I found something quite strange in todays race (E3 Prijs Vlaanderen - Harelbeke).
After the last mountain I have 2 attackers in front of the peloton, Miehe with 1min 35sec advantage, losing 8-10 seconds per flat section; and Dales with 50 seconds advantage, losing 5-6 seconds per flat section.
Before the ultimate section, Miehe has 1:01 min advantage and Dales just 29 seconds, so they should finish approximately with 50 and 20 seconds advantage with the peloton at the finish, but instead of that they finished together with 47 seconds advantage...
To me it looks like there is something wrong, at least with Dales, and even more when Dales gets a flat tire in the second to last section of the race, but somehow manages to increase his advantage with peloton in the last section...(division 3:10)
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Post by NikeBoy on Feb 5, 2013 22:30:49 GMT 1
Problem witth the grouping in the last section, causes the 2 riders to end in the same time. This will be fixed in a next update. Thanks for the info
When Dales starts the section in which he has a flat tire, he leads by 40 seconds. After the flat tire he has a lead of 34 seconds. So he lost some time in that section ...
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Post by bellah on May 8, 2013 12:22:17 GMT 1
Race engine still make no sence with real cycling.
2 Guys who attack in km 1, make it to the finish 149 km further with the pack chasing. (my team alone has 4 guys chasing) No way!
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Post by Quatannens on May 8, 2013 21:55:50 GMT 1
And are you sure your cyclists are good enough?
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bellah
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Post by bellah on May 9, 2013 22:17:15 GMT 1
Yup! But also not really the point. 2 guys can't make it against the pack on 149 km.
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Post by Ab Normaal on Apr 7, 2014 12:18:44 GMT 1
Pfff, the results are getting more riduculous evrey day. in 1:1 the peloton finishes on 26 minutes.
Winning a grand tour nowadays is nothing more than pure luck. Attacking with low effort on the right day. In the first week the first normal stage, it was 13 minuts, second stage 6, now 26. This has nothing to do with strategy. Was it a bad descision attacking in these two stages in stead of this one? Pure luck, that's all.
The mistakes in the engine and the strange results are getting worse and to be honest, that is a waste of time.
And nobody can change anything except for IP who isn't here anymore. Or am I the only one with this opinion?
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Post by Mike on Apr 7, 2014 12:35:11 GMT 1
I can't see anything wrong on my end.. engine seems corect to me
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Post by Ab Normaal on Apr 7, 2014 12:43:56 GMT 1
Yeah right. In one stage it is "only" 13, then next 6 and in another, where all parts are only 5 km long, so no long parts, the difference is 26 minutes.
It is my point, that this has nothing to do wit strategy. Attacking every day with low effort isn't possible, that you loose a lot of time in the last stage of the week, so you can do it only once.
There is absolutely no indication that the difference could be so much higher than in other stages.
the engine isn't different than in other stages, it is completely random with the differences. That's my point.
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