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Post by Poekie on Feb 8, 2018 11:52:16 GMT 1
About leadership. Raising a cyclist to a reasonable amount of leadership (5 or so) takes rather long. My impression is that it doesn't depend on the current amount of leadership (so from 4 to 5 takes as long as from 19 to 20). I think it's a good idea that it goes faster at the lower levels and slower at higher levels. In this way most people can have a reasonable leader but you need really to invest to get an exceptional leader. I agree in principle, but don't want to change it too radically. Something like this perhaps? 0-5 25 races per point 5-10 30 races per point 10-20 35 races per point |
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Post by eboese on Feb 8, 2018 12:38:06 GMT 1
I agree as well, but I find it hard to comment on this one. I'm now in a position that I probably need to develop a new leader very soon, so it's difficult to make a fair judgement. It would be good have the views of some managers who already went through this process in the past year(s).
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Post by Mike on Feb 8, 2018 15:54:38 GMT 1
I have gone through it (still am)
I needed a second leader because of selling my old main leader.
What I did was find a 18y guy with 2 leadership. And then let him lead most of the races exept tours; a lot of small tours as well.
I got this guy somewher 1st half of season last season. He now still has only LS 4 but soon will pop to LS 5 (I think). Then at last I can attack 5x.
This season he has ridden 27 stages; last season he has ridden 8 stages.
How many races as leader is it at the moment? 30? Then he has a long way to go to 5 LS; I had the feeling it would be soon.
Problem is that I cant remember when he went to 3 LS. It was last season, so then he must be near LS5?
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Post by Poekie on Feb 8, 2018 22:21:41 GMT 1
I always forget, but it's around 33. You can look up when he went to 3 LS at the training statistics.
Another idea is to have quicker development for youth leaders. Or youth races counting double (or 150%) for LS.
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Post by Mike on Feb 9, 2018 10:37:18 GMT 1
training stats, did'nt think of that
LS 4 on december 16th last year (that's this season Milan-San Remo).
So now he has LS4 + 21 LS days
thx for the tip
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Post by evild on Feb 11, 2018 11:31:24 GMT 1
I am also riding with a young guy to gain leadership. I agree, it takes too long to come to a reasonable ls. I dont need 10 points straight away, but 100 races to gain 3 ls points? Certainly a big effort, especially for new teams
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Post by heppie on Feb 11, 2018 22:32:20 GMT 1
Something like this perhaps? 0-5 25 races per point 5-10 30 races per point 10-20 35 races per point Yes, something like that looks nice to me. Maybe even 40 races for 15-20, so that it doesn't become easier to get a ls 20. |
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