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Post by Genomico on Apr 28, 2016 22:02:15 GMT 1
Nice to read back discussions from back then.
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Post by roller on Apr 28, 2016 23:56:03 GMT 1
I do not care if genomic spends a lot of money for a young cyclist, indeed I hope it ends soon he had and that was given to me by those who manage peloton today for an account closed of two years; who received the money, however, must have reduced the amount received ... +1 I think it was an error to give him the money back. Other manager have to start with 500k when he received lot of milions. And now he is spending lot of milions for 18 y old giving part of the advantage to teams with a scout. Rats div.1 season 7 Rats div.1 season 8 Rats div.1 season 9 Rats div.1 season 10 Rats div.1 season 11
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Post by angelogik on Apr 29, 2016 0:05:36 GMT 1
at the beginning of restart of the peloton i sell the cyclist 3298 Abilio gallant, another manager bought the cyclist for more than 6 million, I denounced the sale because it was clearly a favoritism by those who did not even know it was part of my group that left the peloton immediately later, after reporting the money of my sales were scaled down to 45.977 from someone, that's because i like to play clean, even though i think that was the only case of resizing amounts to sales of cyclists ... for me this behavior it is like cheating because it favors some managers against everyone else, but I see that the bad habit has not changed, back in my silence, so it is useless to point out inappropriate behavior in peloton, at this rate will end like the first time. ..
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Post by angelogik on Apr 29, 2016 0:13:13 GMT 1
Almost at the beginning of last season i sell a young cyclist 18 yo, TL3 with excellent characteristics for 400.000 to Schizm, Giovanni Battista Rossetto 131929, very better than a lot of 18 yo bought at 1.000.000, 2.000.000, 3.000.000, but for me 400.000 I think it was the right price
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Post by Mike on Apr 29, 2016 5:49:58 GMT 1
I'm not sure but am I reading right: someone who had stopped with peloton and had a lot of money the moment he stopped, now started again with the game and managed to get his old team back with all the money still in the team.
If I'm reading this right: then it is game fraud and should be put right again.
I don't care who stops with the game, I would rather have no one stopping. But getting back a team likt this is not the proper way to go. If you want to start again, then start like every other new manager.
This needs to be set right as soon as possible.
But maybe I'm not reading all this right, in that case my appology's
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Post by Ab Normaal on Apr 29, 2016 15:11:49 GMT 1
If Genomico would have logged in every month, like the Lions is doing now, he still would have had all the millions he earned himself. It are his millions, the money he got for selling his cyclists.
As long as he doesn't pay too much money for a cyclist from a friendly manager (which he did not), I really don't understand what the fuzz is all about. In my opinion, everybody could get his account back and should we stop deleting accounts if someone doesn't log in for a month.
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Post by Mike on Apr 29, 2016 16:17:12 GMT 1
Youre first word 'If' is importent. He didn't and quit. If he wants to play again he should start another team.
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Post by roller on Apr 29, 2016 16:29:22 GMT 1
I really don't understand what the fuzz is all about. It's unfair. It is unfair for the teams in his division that have to fight against a "new" player with 100 times their starting money. It is unfair for the teams interested in younger cyclists that can't spend milions to buy a 10 points skill cyclist. I'm not personally interested in the cyclists he is buying, but other teams maybe. So even if I'm not directly involved in the advantage/disadvantage generated from this rich comeback, I have to disagree with the decision adopted. The restart of that team with all his money back is unfair for Lions too that constantly login to avoid the deleting.
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Post by angelogik on Apr 29, 2016 18:40:37 GMT 1
Youre first word 'If' is importent. He didn't and quit. If he wants to play again he should start another team. + 1.000.000
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Post by angelogik on Apr 29, 2016 18:47:05 GMT 1
... stop deleting accounts if someone doesn't log in for a month. One month is not two years, genomic continues to offer large sums for young cyclists, I still report it as cheaters because for me it is as it was long ago ...
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Post by Genomico on Apr 29, 2016 19:53:49 GMT 1
I'm sorry that the Division 1 topic is used for this I wanted to start a new team, actually just to see what was happening in the game and in Division 1, and when I did I got offered to get back my old team. Then I got interested in training some youthies to make them the best of their age. Perhaps for the future when I would like to organise some funrace tournaments. To achieve this goal I like to have some cyclists in my team to at least start some training. Ok, perhaps I paid too much. I still have no idea of transfermarket prices (what are Puscasu, Malton and Guth worth?). But don't call me a cheater for being interested in starting to train some cyclists again. I'm happy to pay 3 ton instead of 3 million, but when someone offers 2.6 million, well...
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Post by angelogik on Apr 29, 2016 21:52:19 GMT 1
I'm sorry that the Division 1 topic is used for this ... you were the first to use the 1.1 topic, maybe you still feel of that group ... I do not care how you spend money on the market, the problem are those who receive that money, too, many, ... shamelessly
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Post by Schizm on Apr 29, 2016 23:23:37 GMT 1
MOD : I removed all posts about the restart of Genomico to a seperate topic, please do not use the 1.1 topic to discus this any further. I also want to make it very clear that I will closely monitor this topic and remove all insults or (further) personal accusations of cheating.
Now about the topic here is my personal opinion, I didn't hear anybody complain when Serti asked his team back, only to sell his cyclists (preferably to his friends) and then quit. All those now complaining didnt say a word when we reactivated other teams and gave some back their old cyclists and means to play otherwise bankrupt teams. Even when Quatannens asked his team back just a few weeks back nobody spoke up.
So I disagree with those complaining now about Genomico getting his team back, there is nothiong dishonest about that (a lot of worse things have passed). Because reactivating is a policy that we introduced a long time ago to keep managers numbers up. I refuse to change that because this time the player really takes up back his interest in peloton, and some get afraid or have personal issues with the man (over things that happened a long time ago) or whatever ...
As I understand it all the high price paid for youngsters, where the result of bidwars where atleast two rich managers tried to get the same cyclist and always overbid each other. This happened before, there always will be cases where crazy prices are paid, for me that is a normal effect of having a bidding system.
Feel free to disagree, try to convince me if you can. Just remember I believe you can not make any exceptions to rules, they need to be the same for everyone. It is all or nothing.
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Post by Mike on Apr 30, 2016 7:01:37 GMT 1
Ok,
Here's my reaction. First of all, I must have stumbled on this issue because all other accounts you have summed up did not catch my interest I guess. I had no info about other teams getting there old team back.
Said that, my opinion is: quit the game whenever you want. Come back to the game is start a new team. 'No way around it!' A simple and very logic rule that should be for everyone.
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Post by Genomico on Apr 30, 2016 7:34:40 GMT 1
Regarding the prices of youthies and the market system... Everyone can see that having a youthscout finally could earn a team some money (till now it only cost a fortune). So every team has the opportunity to take one and sell his cyclists. When more managers do that, prices will drop automatically.
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