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Post by Schizm on May 23, 2016 12:29:40 GMT 1
No need to hurry roller , all teams will be promoted to div 5 For some seasons we always promote all teams from div 6 to fill div 5 because there isn't enough players in div 5. I'm not hurrying. I just don't wanna staying on the side thinking not my problem just becouse the doped team is not in my division. And promoting all the teams from 6.x to 5.x won't solve the problem. If they'll not be able to compete on equal terms in this division I cannot imagine how they could in the upper one. Bt the way I add an updated file. View AttachmentEverybody promotes from 6th to 5th , and in 5th we fill the divisions based on date joined, which means EGV will be in the most ecperienced division with other teams that started playing in the first season(s). While the fresh teams in 6.2 now will be joined by other fresh teams. So your point there is invalid, evenmore because EGV stated he has no intention to buy instantly competitive cyclists, anyone in that division quiting because of EGV presence is making a dumb move. Secondly there is no point in putting those 6.2 overviews here if you dont compare them to other divisions. More then 50% of the managers in 5th and 6th quit, that is a problem but isn't related to EGV at all. Third EGV is not a "doped" team, the gamemod decided back then that those transfers were legit (plus 1.4M minus 1.4M is zero as far as I know, you dont get direct wealth from trading) or did sanction those ! Case CLOSED ! Quatannens : your case isn't that much different from Genomico's , both of you have lots of money and both of you asked why your team has become a BOT a few weeks after that happened, only differnce is you were offered (and got) your team back in a couple of days while that process took a couple of years in Genomico's case.
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Post by roller on May 24, 2016 9:58:57 GMT 1
I'm not hurrying. I just don't wanna staying on the side thinking not my problem just becouse the doped team is not in my division. And promoting all the teams from 6.x to 5.x won't solve the problem. If they'll not be able to compete on equal terms in this division I cannot imagine how they could in the upper one. Bt the way I add an updated file. View AttachmentEverybody promotes from 6th to 5th , and in 5th we fill the divisions based on date joined, which means EGV will be in the most ecperienced division with other teams that started playing in the first season(s). While the fresh teams in 6.2 now will be joined by other fresh teams. So your point there is invalid, evenmore because EGV stated he has no intention to buy instantly competitive cyclists, anyone in that division quiting because of EGV presence is making a dumb move. Secondly there is no point in putting those 6.2 overviews here if you dont compare them to other divisions. More then 50% of the managers in 5th and 6th quit, that is a problem but isn't related to EGV at all. Third EGV is not a "doped" team, the gamemod decided back then that those transfers were legit (plus 1.4M minus 1.4M is zero as far as I know, you dont get direct wealth from trading) or did sanction those ! Case CLOSED ! Quatannens : your case isn't that much different from Genomico's , both of you have lots of money and both of you asked why your team has become a BOT a few weeks after that happened, only differnce is you were offered (and got) your team back in a couple of days while that process took a couple of years in Genomico's case. First: Probably in 5.1 (or perhaps 5.2) in the next seanon there'll be a lot of teams of first seasons with mountains of money and very experineced coaches. We'll see. I'm sorry but I'm a credit manager: I don't belive in what people declare me, I belive in the transfer money they do. I don't know why people quit. I just have few ideas. Onestly I'd not say that an action is a dumb move without knowing what aims that decision. I'd not use the adjective "dumd" at all. May I suggest illegal, doped or unfair as sostitutions? Secondly: I'm just looking at a divisione at my choise to see how it runs. If you may, or want to, you can do the same with other divisions. I'm just fine with that one, at least for this season. Third: +1.4 -1.4 = 0 correct! A+!!! I don't understand where are this number from but the sum is totally right! The rest of the sentence is really hard to understand. The hardest part to understand is the final uppercase word. It looks like a final court's sentence. UNBELIEVABLE (just to point out I can scream too) Finally: I'm sorry. I don't know that one coach asked two years ago to have his team back and you readmitted him only this season. It'd have being a long time to wait for him. Really a strong and confident player that waited for two years to have his team back resisting to the easy way to open a new one! Congrats!!!
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Post by Schizm on May 24, 2016 12:31:34 GMT 1
Sorry for the shouting , I just wanted to make it clear that there are no reason to reopen that . Finally: I'm sorry. I don't know that one coach asked two years ago to have his team back and you readmitted him only this season. It'd have being a long time to wait for him. Really a strong and confident player that waited for two years to have his team back resisting to the easy way to open a new one! Congrats!!! I did not say it like that : He asked what happened back then , we did not instantly offer his team back (because the policy was not there yet), he was offered his team back some time later but did not react. Only when he returned to the forum some weeks back, the offer was repeated and his team restored.
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Post by Mike on May 24, 2016 16:32:16 GMT 1
better we end this discussion it would be good to hear this can never happen again
I mean that no team should get his old team back, no matter what. If someone comes in problems like that, he should start a new team.
If that could be the case, then I won't have any problems with decissions in the past.
Prommissing teams to get their old teams back, only because we would have more managers playing the game is in my opinion a wrong decission. Promoting peloton is great but not with special conditions.
my 2 cents again
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Post by brokenchain on May 24, 2016 18:32:43 GMT 1
what is wrong with getting your old team back?
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Post by Mike on May 24, 2016 21:26:17 GMT 1
If once you decided to quit ... you quit Want to start over, start over with a new team, afterall it was youre decission to quit
If you had for instance bad luck and lost youre team because you came back on line to late and lost youre team. Well that sucks and is bad luck. But there are rules made, a certain amount of time off line is out of the game... and if we don't follow rules then where is the point of making them in the first place? If admins think the rules are to tight, then change them and make it, just for example, off line max 3 months or something else... whatever.. BUT a rule has to be followed otherwise: chaos
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Post by newborn on May 25, 2016 10:45:38 GMT 1
It would be an option to only delete the teams that are bankrupt, so it would be possible for some teams to take a sabbatical by firing their trainer and youthscout, selling all riders and have enough money every week because you don't have any costs. (Even perhaps combined with some investments and contracts running)
The rule of logging in every 30 days is, in my opinion, a ridiculous rule which makes it impossible to take a sabbatical or even take a long vacation without internet(more than 30 days).
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Post by Ab Normaal on May 25, 2016 15:26:13 GMT 1
The rule of logging in every 30 days is, in my opinion, a ridiculous rule which makes it impossible to take a sabbatical or even take a long vacation without internet(more than 30 days). I agree completely with that.
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Post by Genomico on May 25, 2016 21:06:09 GMT 1
I'm sorry but I'm a credit manager: I don't belive in what people declare me, I belive in the transfer money they do. ... +1.4 -1.4 = 0 correct! A+!!! I don't understand where are this number from but the sum is totally right! This calculation is very easily explained. The day before this transfer I spent ALL my money on Johanes Lonfils (>1.9 M). After that transfer I had zero money on my bank account. I often did this when I wanted a cyclist. At the beginning of the game money became worth less every week, because more money came in the game every week, so investing your money was the most important tactic of all. If you have a million dollar in a certain week you can get a much better cyclist than when you save your money and try to buy a cyclist a few weeks later. It's not about paying the right amount of money for a cyclist but to get the best cyclist(s) for your money, which is a different thing. It means you sometimes pay a lot, but that is still better than not invest your money. Buying means a better team which means more price money, so more money to invest again. So after I sold Nassi I had 1.4 M on my bank account and I wanted Lazar, so I went all in on him. If you don't understand this tactic than that says it all for me. I wouldn't use the term dumb that quick, but if it's still not clear after this message... I even checked the stats of Lonfils and Nassi when I bought them: F H M D S T TV St Ba Xp Ls Lonfils 7-1-2-1-3-1 $244,028 14 16 2 2 (bought for $1,932,510 at April 4th) Lazar 7-2-2-1-2-1 $244,862 17 18 4 4 (bought for $1,400,000 at April 5th) So Lazar had 6 stats better than Lonfils (9 actually because mountain, downhill and time trial were higher as well, but I didn't know that when I bought them), while Lonfils only had 1 better than Lazar. So how could $1,400,000 be doping, cheating, unfair?
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Post by roller on May 26, 2016 10:47:30 GMT 1
I'm sorry but I'm a credit manager: I don't belive in what people declare me, I belive in the transfer money they do. ... +1.4 -1.4 = 0 correct! A+!!! I don't understand where are this number from but the sum is totally right! This calculation is very easily explained. The day before this transfer I spent ALL my money on Johanes Lonfils (>1.9 M). After that transfer I had zero money on my bank account. I often did this when I wanted a cyclist. At the beginning of the game money became worth less every week, because more money came in the game every week, so investing your money was the most important tactic of all. If you have a million dollar in a certain week you can get a much better cyclist than when you save your money and try to buy a cyclist a few weeks later. It's not about paying the right amount of money for a cyclist but to get the best cyclist(s) for your money, which is a different thing. It means you sometimes pay a lot, but that is still better than not invest your money. Buying means a better team which means more price money, so more money to invest again. So after I sold Nassi I had 1.4 M on my bank account and I wanted Lazar, so I went all in on him. If you don't understand this tactic than that says it all for me. I wouldn't use the term dumb that quick, but if it's still not clear after this message... I even checked the stats of Lonfils and Nassi when I bought them: F H M D S T TV St Ba Xp Ls Lonfils 7-1-2-1-3-1 $244,028 14 16 2 2 (bought for $1,932,510 at April 4th) Lazar 7-2-2-1-2-1 $244,862 17 18 4 4 (bought for $1,400,000 at April 5th) So Lazar had 6 stats better than Lonfils (9 actually because mountain, downhill and time trial were higher as well, but I didn't know that when I bought them), while Lonfils only had 1 better than Lazar. So how could $1,400,000 be doping, cheating, unfair? I still don't understand where are the 1.4+ 1.4- value from... Maybe I'm dumb. Surely you are a lot more able than me on market prices and on investiment tactics. I'm not referring to purchase of a specific ciclist but to the possibility to offer 1.4M instead of the 500k tha each other starting team has. If you don't understand this probably you are too skilled on market transfer rate!!! The point is not how you spend your money, the point is that your team has an amount of money that noone of other 6.x teams have (not mention other divisions...). It is unfair for other team that run in your division now and/or in the future. You have had an unnecessary, and incorrest boost that other team can't have. That's is what i call doping. I can't be more clear than this so I hope not to come back to clarify my thought. Have fun playing basket against dwarfs, you big giant!
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Post by roller on Jun 24, 2016 9:23:12 GMT 1
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Post by rarau on Jun 24, 2016 12:41:16 GMT 1
what it means : odierno, n totale, riga da copiare ?
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Post by roller on Jun 24, 2016 13:09:57 GMT 1
what it means : odierno, n totale, riga da copiare ? odierno = today values n.totale = total number riga da copiare = line for copy
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Post by Genomico on Jun 24, 2016 22:51:12 GMT 1
You can update a few weeks in front already, because I'll train my youthscout till at least 18-18-18 and my trainer with 3 skills at least at 19.
Oh btw, you did see I hardly participate in races, right? So there is no me 'playing against dwarfs'.
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