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Post by wheelnut on Sept 3, 2012 9:11:33 GMT 1
I know everyone is getting their heads around the new changes but I have a question regarding training...
Has training thinking changed now multi skills are more important and training different cyclists in different skills is possible?
Currently I have a 15 mountain skilled coach with zero in every other ability training 23 cyclists.
Do I train that coach in learning other skill areas so later I can swap my cyclists to other training (not mountain) or do I sack him and get a truly multi skilled coach?
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Post by Schizm on Sept 3, 2012 10:00:35 GMT 1
In the long run it is much cheaper to train your trainer then to buy a new one.
- if your short on cash and have not many cyclists who are above 7 (and don't progress much on training) keep your trainer. - in most other cases try to buy one with 2 or more high skills
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Post by Il Padrino on Sept 3, 2012 15:13:29 GMT 1
Training skills cost 10k per week, while the skills when hiring a new training cost 20k per skill point (sign money).
So it depends. If you plan to train a second skill soon and you have the cash, you could hire a new trainer.
But if you think you will start training a second skill only in a couple of months, you might be better of training the trainer.
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Post by wheelnut on Sept 3, 2012 17:16:20 GMT 1
thanks...I think I will stick with my trainer and start to train him in another skill say flat
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Post by icsulescu on Sept 7, 2012 6:39:40 GMT 1
Any expert with the new race engine? I currently have a 15 flat trainer (0 rest of the skills). I will train him flat a few weeks then I want to train him another skill, maybe. What should I choose? I really don't know. I was thinking of sprint but also mountain ...
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Post by Schizm on Sept 7, 2012 8:10:36 GMT 1
Sprint or Mountain are definitely good choices for training, only problem is that a lot of managers will try to combine flat , mountain and/or sprint now. So choosing hill and/or TT as the skill to train could work out well for you to, atleast as long as the big part of the managers concentrates on other skills.
But most of all I would base the choice on your teams strengths and/or weaknesess , if you have some riders with excellent flat / sprint combo's then try to enforce those skills. (Or if you have some excellent allrounders except for their mountain skill, pick mountain).
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Post by icsulescu on Sept 7, 2012 13:06:23 GMT 1
Ok. Thanks, Schizm.
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Post by wheelnut on Sept 21, 2012 9:31:14 GMT 1
I saw in a separate post that sprint is more important in the new race engine...
I am however learning flat on my 15 skilled mountain coach
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veoz
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Post by veoz on Sept 23, 2012 0:50:23 GMT 1
I think sprint is definitely the way to go... One of my rider with 1 flat and 3 sprint did better than another one with 7 flat and 2 sprint on a flat race... In my opinion you don't need your riders to be excellent in flat or something, just good enough to stay in the peloton. The sprint skill will do the rest.
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Post by Genomico on Sept 23, 2012 0:54:19 GMT 1
Training sprint is still something for short-term. Cyclists will get behind in mainskills and won't be able to hang on the peloton anymore. So yes, skill does the job when your cyclist can hang on, but if you only train him on sprint, he'll get behind too much and not end in the 1st group anymore.
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Post by veoz on Sept 23, 2012 1:15:02 GMT 1
Well when you see how many flat and mountain trainers there are compared to sprint trainers, I think that a 2 flat 2 hill 2 mountain 8 sprint is more valuable than 8 flat 2 hill 2 mountain 2 sprint, so financially sprint looks more interesting to me. But I can see your point and you're right, that's why people have to chose what to train according to their team. Personnally I trained mountain during the last season, and I bought some riders with a good flat skill, so it was time for me to switch to sprint... Now if your best riders have like 5 in their primary skill, of course sprint is not the good option
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Post by lee1950 on Sept 23, 2012 8:24:42 GMT 1
I did something similar to veoz. I trained Mountain for 2.5 season, and switched to Hill partway through last season. I also did some shopping so I have a mix of Flat and Mountain riders. I hope to train everyone up to Hill-7+, and then have some Flat/Hill riders for the 1-day classics, and some Hill/Mountain riders for tours. Then I have to pick between Sprint and TT. (Do I want to focus on winning stages, or winning tours?) Haven't decided yet.
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