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Post by andrei on Feb 22, 2008 9:06:02 GMT 1
IMHO this Transfer forum isn't such a good idea..
1) The team owners provide wrong information about riders in order to sell them for high prices.
2) there are 40-50 active forum users. This fact gives a big priority for the users who advertise here their riders.
Am I the only one who dislikes Transfer forum?
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Post by Schizm on Feb 22, 2008 10:12:33 GMT 1
I moved your post because the transferforum should only contain ads to sell or buy cyclists.
could you also alter the posttitle please.
@ontopic : I think the information provided in the transferforum is correct most of the time, ofcourse like in real ads sometimes people lie to get a better price. Because the posts are meant as ads people also tend to deliberately not mention the downsides of their cyclist, but in my opinion that is something which an interested manager also realises.
So in my opinion the transferforum can stay, even if it reaches only a limited amount of the users.
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Post by NikeBoy on Feb 22, 2008 12:22:36 GMT 1
To be honest : I never look at those forums. What's the use ? To make it more visible ... but the filters on the site are good enough to find the cyclist you want
For me, these forums are obsolete. But I can understand that other like those add a lot
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Post by boucthesurvivor on Feb 22, 2008 12:39:40 GMT 1
For me, only the international forum and the belgian forum should stay for transfers... The others are not used!
And it should be more ruled : no FA (how to verify??), not 10 topics when you sell 10 cyclists.
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Post by andrei on Feb 22, 2008 12:54:28 GMT 1
2 boucthesurvivor: the way you do this stuff is very nice. Only 1 topic, no FA, just facts (skills + results). I like it.
i don't think it has to be on forums IMHO. Ok, let us, al least, rule this forum a little more.
1. Skills 2. Rider history
And no words like "A great sprinter" or "the best 18 yo rider". Just facts. The manager(potential buyer) has to decide by his own if it is a good rider or not.
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Post by Schizm on Feb 22, 2008 13:23:06 GMT 1
I don't like this, it would be like having an ad for coca-cola just summing the ingredients. Slogans just go with ads. If I for instance can't even put the attention to the fact that my youthpull comes form a delighted youthscout what is the use of putting an ad here anyway. Agreed FA or in other words pop-information can only be checked when someone trains just one skill and after he is bought by a premium-user (in the training statistics). So maybe this should be regulated in some way. But even when you don't mention it when I sell a good cyclists lots of managers just come to ask me how well he trains, there is no 100% way to avoid this. To be honest : I never look at those forums. What's the use ? To make it more visible ... but the filters on the site are good enough to find the cyclist you want For me, these forums are obsolete. But I can understand that other like those add a lot for me the filters on the site are helpful but not good enough, I miss selections like bravery, steering, leadership, date he started his carreer, deadline from (to see who's new on the list), ...
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Post by captagon on Feb 22, 2008 16:22:35 GMT 1
I think everyone has the right to lie when advertising their merchandise. there are enough ways to spot a lier, or to at least be able to smell something fishy. In the long run, maintaining your credibility is more important then selling a few cyclists above their actual value.
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Post by barcaig on Feb 22, 2008 18:55:40 GMT 1
i don't use this part of forum too
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Post by zimba on Feb 23, 2008 18:34:26 GMT 1
Damn, if only I had used the transfer forum for the cyclists I was selling today. Aart Maurau won several races, but still before Peloton kept track of those in the cyclist history. But even then, it was a good sprinter with superb steering, quite some experience and a leader, and he got sold for only 155.000. Had expected at least twice that amount. And Bilail Reyntiens : I bought that guy for 2.750.000. Since then, he went up because of training, to 6 flat-3-hill-4mountain. Plus 5 leadership. And that as a 22y old ! That sure isn't worth less than 2 million, sure not the 707.000 I only received. I guess I should start setting my own selling prices and keep trying to sell until someone buys them. But that has never been my style, so I've got to adapt to that. It's probably some effect of the collapsed transfer market (result from the changed training system) + the long break. Not enough new people must have been entering the game since, so most of us aren't looking for cyclists too much. Pfff, very harsh.
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Post by barcaig on Feb 24, 2008 18:31:56 GMT 1
the inflation of US market affect Peloton
the crisis of houses in US Fu** Peloton, and the high price of Oil too
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