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Post by steingrim on Oct 3, 2007 14:12:58 GMT 1
I spent an extra 10% fitness on a couple of riders early in the Giro, expecting the competition to do something similar along the tour. But they haven't, and now they have been at -10% for almost the entire Giro. Is that the best way of winning - not spending fitness? The top dutch teams for example, haven't spent anything so far. Or maybe they wait until the final stage or stages? What do you guys nomally do - and do you win?  And what about the small tours? I have spent 45% (+the automatic 15%) in the previous, with mostly good results (and a big squad ;D). Please share your thoughts, cheers! |
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Post by Quatannens on Oct 3, 2007 14:38:09 GMT 1
For big tours the only way to win is never spend any fitness, except the last stage or stages. Only if you cyclist is really better you can win with lower fitness. And to win a small tour it's the opposite, you have to spend a lot of fitness. The first stage you have to ride on 70 to 80% and the last to stages you ride on 80-100%. If you only have flat cyclists it's the best to do a bigger effort in the stage with the most flat. I think everybody do this  |
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Post by stefkeswoon on Oct 3, 2007 16:23:32 GMT 1
That's indeed the best way to use fitness in this game. But of course, you need a big squad to do so in several races/tours.
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Post by Quatannens on Oct 3, 2007 16:43:47 GMT 1
Yes, that's true. Now I have the following cyclists:
Big Tours: 5 cyclists with 3 TT, one of them is an allrounder
Small tours: 2*5 cyclists, 5 of them are for winning a race, the other 5 are for the final standings
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Post by steingrim on Oct 3, 2007 17:04:14 GMT 1
Yes, that's true. Now I have the following cyclists: Big Tours: 5 cyclists with 3 TT, one of them is an allrounder Small tours: 2*5 cyclists, 5 of them are for winning a race, the other 5 are for the final standings I think maybe TT is becoming more interesting after the grouping changes. But hey, what about the jersies, don't you have sprinters and climbers? And what to do with their fitness in a small tour? If most of the sprints are on stage one and two, say 4-3-1, I would go for a medium boost on the first stage, all out on the second, and not care much for the third... |
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Post by Quatannens on Oct 3, 2007 20:02:23 GMT 1
The cyclists that ride on 100% will sprint, if I think it's better for an other cyclist, he will sprint. For every tour it's different.
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mitch
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Post by mitch on Oct 11, 2007 13:45:39 GMT 1
AHH you learn something new each day. I nearly killed my boys in the giro. I think they will not recover for the big tour. :-(
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nazim
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Post by nazim on Dec 1, 2007 16:09:34 GMT 1
As a new team what squad size do you think i should have?just have the 12 i started out with and now two are injured 3 are down with fitness problems.
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Post by captagon on Dec 1, 2007 17:14:52 GMT 1
I'd say, buy a couple of very old 'n cheap , but decent skilled, cyclists. It can't hurt to be close to the limit of 25 cyclists. Once your old and slowly training cyclists have gained enough money, you can buy a youthscout and train your own talented cyclists.
An other idea is to buy newly pulled youthpulls, which aren't expensive these days, and start building your team right away. you will win less money though.
An even better idea might be to combine the two above.
Anyway, prices are quite low right now, so don't hesitate to buy a decently skilled cylcist, if he isn't that expensive.
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