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Post by wheelnut on Dec 30, 2022 19:24:45 GMT 1
Been floundering around in this game for several years/seasons now so not so much a newbie question...
Over that time not quite nailed a strategy that works and is satisfying. ended up trying to develop a full British home grown team.
The maths dont quite work on the youth scout basically £900k for a 10/10/10 scout then 34k per week I think for his wages. As soon as you try to raise any of the scout's three skills from 10 the wages go up. just on the basic scout 34 x 16 week season is roughly 520k per season and for only 1 or maybe 2 18 year olds! so 250k each! Try to sell the excess on the TM and your lucky to get 5k a piece.
I have therefore ended up with multiple trainees 18 to 21 and running out of the 25 training slots. they all need different skills so a multi skilled trainer is required - expensive, 200k+
Tried selling some at 22 but again the TM is dead, get next to nothing for them.
Doing some maths if I pull 2x per season end up with 35-18 x 2 = 34 trainable cyclists, too many! If I do one per year I get 17 only >18 < 35.
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Post by Mike on Dec 30, 2022 21:55:27 GMT 1
Been there, done that...
Buy youre youth on TL in stead of using a youth scout yourself. That's my advice.
This season I needed 3 18y olds, baught 2 first week and 1 second week. (offcourse youth cost more in beginning of season)
Average = 261.315
69296 24/12/2022 Diego Deleón Bought from 25.934 €
69203 18/12/2022 Ronald Vieujean Bought from Iwn-ME 440.000 €
69156 17/12/2022 Ben Zaramella Bought from 318.013 €
Next season I will need only 1 18y old. Some years no youth needed
You'll never match the cost by having a youth scout yourself...
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Post by Poekie on Dec 30, 2022 22:38:10 GMT 1
Do note that all riders need (a lot of) TT and sprint. So you can save money by having a trainer for only those skills for 3/4 seasons.
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Post by quiller on Dec 31, 2022 12:13:41 GMT 1
Been there, done that... Buy youre youth on TL in stead of using a youth scout yourself. That's my advice. This season I needed 3 18y olds, baught 2 first week and 1 second week. (offcourse youth cost more in beginning of season) Average = 261.315 69296 24/12/2022 Diego Deleón Bought from 25.934 € 69203 18/12/2022 Ronald Vieujean Bought from Iwn-ME 440.000 € 69156 17/12/2022 Ben Zaramella Bought from 318.013 € Next season I will need only 1 18y old. Some years no youth needed You'll never match the cost by having a youth scout yourself... I do not agree here. I tried both (with and without youthscout) ... Yes there is a cost BUT : those who have youth scout always keep the best (at first sight) for themself... Doing so : the price for a good looking 18Y/O goes up extremely (beyond the cost of the scout) on the transfer market because too few use a youthscout... Getting a rare Gem on the market or through the scout is almost a certainty to earn a lot of points (and money) when he gets 20-21 IF you can afford a good enough trainer, but on through the scout he is a lot cheaper. |
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Post by wheelnut on Dec 31, 2022 13:28:23 GMT 1
Been there, done that... Buy youre youth on TL in stead of using a youth scout yourself. That's my advice. This season I needed 3 18y olds, baught 2 first week and 1 second week. (offcourse youth cost more in beginning of season) Average = 261.315 69296 24/12/2022 Diego Deleón Bought from 25.934 € 69203 18/12/2022 Ronald Vieujean Bought from Iwn-ME 440.000 € 69156 17/12/2022 Ben Zaramella Bought from 318.013 € Next season I will need only 1 18y old. Some years no youth needed You'll never match the cost by having a youth scout yourself... I do not agree here. I tried both (with and without youthscout) ... Yes there is a cost BUT : those who have youth scout always keep the best (at first sight) for themself... Doing so : the price for a good looking 18Y/O goes up extremely (beyond the cost of the scout) on the transfer market because too few use a youthscout... Getting a rare Gem on the market or through the scout is almost a certainty to earn a lot of points (and money) when he gets 20-21 IF you can afford a good enough trainer, but on through the scout he is a lot cheaper. My problem is not sure what ‘good’ looks like? Don’t all the 18 yo skills add up to 10 including sub levels so aren’t 18 yo all the same basically? |
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Post by quiller on Dec 31, 2022 14:06:53 GMT 1
I do not agree here. I tried both (with and without youthscout) ... Yes there is a cost BUT : those who have youth scout always keep the best (at first sight) for themself... Doing so : the price for a good looking 18Y/O goes up extremely (beyond the cost of the scout) on the transfer market because too few use a youthscout... Getting a rare Gem on the market or through the scout is almost a certainty to earn a lot of points (and money) when he gets 20-21 IF you can afford a good enough trainer, but on through the scout he is a lot cheaper. My problem is not sure what ‘good’ looks like? Don’t all the 18 yo skills add up to 10 including sub levels so aren’t 18 yo all the same basically? No. The higher certain skills of the youthscout the higher the possible skills (my pulls are mostly 12 for an 18y/o -- if you get one early on with good secondary stats (right length / weight -- ok steering etc) you have a possible top rider... You do not sell him). |
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Post by wheelnut on Dec 31, 2022 16:20:26 GMT 1
My problem is not sure what ‘good’ looks like? Don’t all the 18 yo skills add up to 10 including sub levels so aren’t 18 yo all the same basically? No. The higher certain skills of the youthscout the higher the possible skills (my pulls are mostly 12 for an 18y/o -- if you get one early on with good secondary stats (right length / weight -- ok steering etc) you have a possible top rider... You do not sell him). So to get to 12 what skill-levels do you need your scout to be at? They start at 10 for the three skills but pushing them up does increase weekly wages of course. |
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Post by quiller on Jan 1, 2023 3:35:08 GMT 1
No. The higher certain skills of the youthscout the higher the possible skills (my pulls are mostly 12 for an 18y/o -- if you get one early on with good secondary stats (right length / weight -- ok steering etc) you have a possible top rider... You do not sell him). So to get to 12 what skill-levels do you need your scout to be at? They start at 10 for the three skills but pushing them up does increase weekly wages of course. minimum 15 |
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