Tell me why ...

[rarau]

Before I talk with Genomico and Bolt but i remain confused ...

My division 3.6
www.peloton-game.net/results2.aspx?id=2&division_id=198&season=4

It's strange this game
Bolt Thrower (1612) win all in my group with maybe low cyclists

See today race, today my players finish in same time with the winner, also with the bots


Clemente final sprinter 115 222 exp 1
Stelymes helper 215 110
Becaus attacker point 4 with 215 222
Bigotti 134 111 helper
Pietri helper 125 410


1. Carmona 0 0 05:07:46 Bolt Thrower
2. Boere 0 0 same time Bolt Thrower
3. Truglio 0 0 same time mercatone uno
4. Passeri 0 1 same time De bende zeveraars
5. Delpech 0 0 same time De bende zeveraars
6. Frisell 0 0 same time LoveAndPeaceToTheWorld
7. Pampana 0 1 same time LoveAndPeaceToTheWorld
8. Lucassen 0 0 same time LoveAndPeaceToTheWorld

18. Araújo 0 0 same time mercatone uno
19. Specos 0 1 same time mercatone uno
20. Antoniolli 0 0 same time mercatone uno

34. Zitta 0 0 same time LoveAndPeaceToTheWorld
35. Pietri 0 0 same time Luptatorii din Rarau
36. Couret 0 0 same time Bot1986
37. Trogh 0 0 same time Bot1984
38. Clamens 1 0 same time Team Camargue

39. Da Costa 1 1 00:01:17 De bende zeveraars
40. Cristea 1 0 00:02:44 WTC Driewieler
41. Tatarescu 0 1 00:04:25 Petrolul Ploiesti
42. Van Den Eede 0 2 00:06:18 Bolt Thrower



total distance: 203km

Flat:Hill:Mountain:Downhill:
148km
15km
15km
25km

Attack points: after 12km, after 50km, after 75km, after 95km, after 120km, after 145km, after 160km, after 170km, after 185km


1. It's normal that my all this low cyclists of my team do finish in the same time with the winner? I expected my players to finsih after 10 minutes not in the same time ! Their flat is 1 or 2

2. It's normal that the winner finish in the same time with THE BOTS??

3. Like i said in the past, all flat trainers need to change their trainer quickly??


p.s. when i play yesterday with a 2 2 10 2 2 2 cyclists i dont win
I lost 01:48 in Pirineous
Flat:Hill:Mountain:Downhill:
0km45km60km50km

and now this 2$ cyclists finish in the same time with the winner?


later edit
also i have a problem , how 2-3 cyclists from the SAME TEAM finish one after another?

[rarau]

Also in Civitavecchia - Marsciano from Tirreno-Adriatico

143km
8km
7km
5km

Attack points: after 12km, after 23km, after 54km, after 70km, after 107km, after 126km, after 151km
Sprint points: after 39km, after 75km, after 94km, after 118km


I win all the sprints with 421 262 exp 4 who was HELPER !!
It's normal?
Place 2 and 3 on sprints also with my stars who have tactic "final sprinter". I don't have problems with my stars but flat 4 to win all sprints

[Genomico]

If bots were able to follow the peloton, it means that the speed of the peloton was low, so that means the helpers were not very good or at low effort.

[stenes]

I'm sorry but the temptation was too strong ^^
you reminded me of a song when I was young

[lee1950]

Well - it seems the bot riders are having too high an influence on the peloton's speed (something Nikeboy wrote, iirc), which is why the next update to the race engine will probably change that.

Unless there is a hard climb somewhere, the bot riders who don't fall or flat (it appears botteams don't use any tactics) seem to be able to stay with the peloton, and so does nearly everyone else. atm, Helpers have a higher influence than non-helpers, but apparently the difference is not enough. If I understand correctly, the next update will lower non-helpers' effect on the peloton's pace, which will make the role of Helpers more important.

[Zberg]

In division 2, at least in 2:3, bots never finish in the first group..

[Zberg]

Sept 26, 2012 22:57:18 GMT 1 stenes said:

I'm sorry but the temptation was too strong ^^
you reminded me of a song when I was young

Thanks for this!

[Zberg]

Sept 26, 2012 21:33:34 GMT 1 rarau said:

I win all the sprints with 421 262 exp 4 who was HELPER !!
It's normal?
Place 2 and 3 on sprints also with my stars who have tactic "final sprinter". I don't have problems with my stars but flat 4 to win all sprints

Well, you played Cavendish as a helper (421 262) and, let's say, Stannard (911 222?) as a final sprinter. That sounds quite illogical to me.

Remember that the sprint skill of a rider is the most important determinant in the final sprint. So, not its flat, mountain, hill or downhill skill. That sounds intuitive to me.

Accordingly, the sprint skill has gained hugely in importance..

[ElGringo]

@ Stenes to me make me remember this one