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Post by Genomico on Feb 26, 2012 2:24:48 GMT 1
I would like to do do the Tour Down Under and all the Dutch stages together with somebody else, because there are more than 20 different tournaments/races. Is there a volunteer? p.s. I would to do the Ronde van Gelderland and the Ronde van Midden - Nederland (so I can send the peloton to my house ) Sure, we can create some nice Dutch races together
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Post by maverickm7 on Feb 26, 2012 7:47:08 GMT 1
Hello,
Tour de Suisse 17 Critérium du Dauphiné 16 GP de Fourmies 38 Critérium International 46 G.P. Citt di Lugano 72 GP du canton d'Argovie 126 Tour du Doubs - Conseil Général 162 Chrono des Nations 181 Tour de l'Ain 234 Grand Prix Rebliland 241
I'll enjoy to participate to the races' design. Thks to send to me the tool by MP.
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Post by Bostrol on Feb 26, 2012 10:46:08 GMT 1
I would like to do some of the 'smaller' classics and some smaller tours:
6 E3 Prijs Vlaanderen - Harelbeke 7 Gent - Wevelgem 10 Paris - Roubaix 12 La Flèche Wallonne 20 Eneco Tour 29 Omloop Het Nieuwsblad Elite 33 De Brabantse Pijl 47 VDK-Driedaagse De Panne-Koksijde 53 Tour de Belgique - Ronde van België 81 Nokere Koerse
and well, why not: Tour de France!!?
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Post by Schizm on Feb 26, 2012 11:11:35 GMT 1
Just gimme some races : But if you want a list : 28 Tour de Beijing, 32 Scheldeprijs, 37 Paris-Bruxelles, 57 Tour de Wallonie , 73 Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne, 74 idem (Juniors), 78 Strade Bianche, 140 Ronde van Vlaanderen Juniores, 102 Tro-Bro Léon, 320 Ronde van Limburg
I am sure you already got my mailadress.
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Post by NikeBoy on Feb 26, 2012 12:46:51 GMT 1
Why have you set the minimum length of a part to 5 km? Seems quite long to me! Where I'm living (southern part of the German Eifel - obviously often the place for stages of the Rheinland-Pfalz-Tour ) it's quite hilly. There are some brutal ascends of 10-15 % which usually are only 1-3 km long. I fail to build a realistic stage if the minimum is 5 km. Am I allowed to edit the XML to reduce some steep ascends to 3 km? I am sure you have seen the intermediate results per part in the new RE. Just like in the current RE, the new RE does its calculations per part, i.e. after every part there is a check on whether an attack was succesfull, grouping is done, ... If the parts are too small then the chances on attacks are almost non-existing, grouping is done too fast, ... I could have a look if we could group some successive small parts together and perform calculations as if it was only 1 part, but this would add complexity and I am in favour of the KISS principle
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Post by Schizm on Feb 26, 2012 12:55:06 GMT 1
Why have you set the minimum length of a part to 5 km? Seems quite long to me! Where I'm living (southern part of the German Eifel - obviously often the place for stages of the Rheinland-Pfalz-Tour ) it's quite hilly. There are some brutal ascends of 10-15 % which usually are only 1-3 km long. I fail to build a realistic stage if the minimum is 5 km. Am I allowed to edit the XML to reduce some steep ascends to 3 km? I am sure you have seen the intermediate results per part in the new RE. Just like in the current RE, the new RE does its calculations per part, i.e. after every part there is a check on whether an attack was succesfull, grouping is done, ... If the parts are too small then the chances on attacks are almost non-existing, grouping is done too fast, ... I could have a look if we could group some successive small parts together and perform calculations as if it was only 1 part, but this would add complexity and I am in favour of the KISS principle Would be nice though if some parts could be "skipped" for grouping, small but brutal Hills could make great attackpoints
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Post by NikeBoy on Feb 26, 2012 13:09:22 GMT 1
I am sure you have seen the intermediate results per part in the new RE. Just like in the current RE, the new RE does its calculations per part, i.e. after every part there is a check on whether an attack was succesfull, grouping is done, ... If the parts are too small then the chances on attacks are almost non-existing, grouping is done too fast, ... I could have a look if we could group some successive small parts together and perform calculations as if it was only 1 part, but this would add complexity and I am in favour of the KISS principle Would be nice though if some parts could be "skipped" for grouping, small but brutal Hills could make great attackpoints Indeed, I will have a look to overcome smaller parts. In the mean time you can continue with current race tool, if we change the 5km limit, you can alter quite easily your races, if needed.
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Post by JoeLag on Feb 26, 2012 13:20:03 GMT 1
Nice tool by the way ... but couldn't you add a graphical representation of the attack points, too? That would be great! nikeboy, what about the graphical representation of attack points? Much effort? Imho it shouldn't because you did fine with the graphical representation of sprints and mountains. Another question about the interpretation of the XML:I understand it that the attack is going to take place after the part with the attack point. Or is it the otherway round and the attack takes place in the part that you mark as attack point?
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Post by goof on Feb 26, 2012 14:52:31 GMT 1
I would like to do do the Tour Down Under and all the Dutch stages together with somebody else, because there are more than 20 different tournaments/races. Is there a volunteer? p.s. I would to do the Ronde van Gelderland and the Ronde van Midden - Nederland (so I can send the peloton to my house ) Sure, we can create some nice Dutch races together Good, tell me wich ones (about ten) you want to create. I don't care much except for the ones I just called.
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Post by NikeBoy on Feb 26, 2012 21:17:06 GMT 1
Nice tool by the way ... but couldn't you add a graphical representation of the attack points, too? That would be great! nikeboy, what about the graphical representation of attack points? Much effort? Imho it shouldn't because you did fine with the graphical representation of sprints and mountains. Another question about the interpretation of the XML:I understand it that the attack is going to take place after the part with the attack point. Or is it the otherway round and the attack takes place in the part that you mark as attack point? Yes, visual indication of attack points will be added Attack takes place in at the beginning of the part that you mark as attack point !
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Post by JoeLag on Feb 26, 2012 22:35:43 GMT 1
Ah! Good to know!
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Post by rarau on Feb 27, 2012 0:46:02 GMT 1
54 Skoda-Tour de Luxembourg [image] Luxembourg 2.HC 2-5
Romania (Luxembourg, Iran, Japan, Asia what name you want ) u21 category 2.1 stages 2-5 if is not possible then Germany U21 (race 229)
also if possible a category 1.2 (or better) Bucuresti ( or Transylvania or Dracula to ) - Transfa g arasan (one day race, very dificult) and also if possible this race u21
335 Golan I [image] Syria 1.2 1 (mountain race i think?)
421 Tour de Persian Gulf [image] Iran 2.2 2-5 422 Tour of Japan [image] Japan 2.2 2-5 427 Tour de Kumano [image] Japan 2.2 2-5 428 Romanian Cycling Tour [image] Romania 2.2 2-5
for ITT and TTT one day race we could make other (name) races? Or how? I dont see ITT/TTT races
p.s. could we make tour races with more dounhill then other 3 ? f/h/m?
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Post by Genomico on Feb 27, 2012 2:50:08 GMT 1
Sure, we can create some nice Dutch races together Good, tell me wich ones (about ten) you want to create. I don't care much except for the ones I just called. As the Amstel Gold Race is already taken, I'll pick some other international races first. So, go ahead I can always create the ones that you don't do later. Don't forget to go through beautiful Achterhoek in the Ronde van Gelderland ;D I like to create: Tours: 3. Tirreno-Adriatico - WorldTour 2-5 15. Giro d'Italia - WorldTour 11 (I'll create about 20-25 for that) Single races: 25. Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec - WorldTour 26. Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal - WorldTour 30. Clasica de Almeria - 1.HC 42. Paris - Tours - 1.HC 62. Tour de India II (at City of Nasik) - 1.1 64. Tour de India III (at the city of Mumbai) - 1.1 253. Tour de India I (at the city of Pune) - 1.2 335. Golan I - 1.2 337. Polygon Tour de Jakarta - 1.2 338. Golan II - 1.2 And perhaps I create some single races in Australia, New Zealand and/or China that are not on the list.
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Post by lee1950 on Feb 27, 2012 8:08:59 GMT 1
I would be happy to work on the 10 US races. (Hopefully the tool is idiot-proof! If not, I'll be a good test subject. ) 35 TD Bank International Cycling Championship 51 Amgen Tour of California 60 USA Pro Cycling Challenge 122 Liberty Classic 212 The Exergy Tour 232 Tour of Elk Grove 235 Tour of Utah 285 Tour of the Battenkill 365 Univest Grand Prix 408 SRAM Tour of the Gila I'll PM my e-mail address.
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Post by rarau on Feb 27, 2012 12:58:41 GMT 1
Good, tell me wich ones (about ten) you want to create. I don't care much except for the ones I just called. As the Amstel Gold Race is already taken, I'll pick some other international races first. So, go ahead I can always create the ones that you don't do later. Don't forget to go through beautiful Achterhoek in the Ronde van Gelderland ;D I like to create: Tours: 3. Tirreno-Adriatico - WorldTour 2-5 15. Giro d'Italia - WorldTour 11 (I'll create about 20-25 for that) Single races: 25. Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec - WorldTour 26. Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal - WorldTour 30. Clasica de Almeria - 1.HC 42. Paris - Tours - 1.HC 62. Tour de India II (at City of Nasik) - 1.1 64. Tour de India III (at the city of Mumbai) - 1.1 253. Tour de India I (at the city of Pune) - 1.2 335. Golan I - 1.2 337. Polygon Tour de Jakarta - 1.2 338. Golan II - 1.2 And perhaps I create some single races in Australia, New Zealand and/or China that are not on the list. Golan 1 is for me i post a message before you. I could make Golan 1 and you Golan 2 i could make (in future) also (same other races from) Japon, Iran, Romania , African or Asian countries
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