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Post by Schizm on Feb 23, 2007 19:31:08 GMT 1
My instructions are clear, you can make your point without crossing a certain border ...
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Post by gelies on Feb 23, 2007 19:33:19 GMT 1
i guess the reason is that is simply a game!
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Post by itgen on Feb 23, 2007 19:36:42 GMT 1
I hope Padrino made a back up before he tried to fix the bug, because he messed up today pretty badly. The best thing to do is just turn back all this messing about, give everybody back the riders they bought/sold, teams they created, money/points they won and just live with the fact that today's race had a bug, fix it, and continue normally, without a bug, tomorrow. that would be much better than all the nonsense that's going on today...... And if he didn't make a backup before he turned it all around and went back two days in time. Well then it's his second big mistake of the day. But luckily there's this dutch saying: Een ezel stoot zich geen tweede keer aan dezelfde steen. So I'm sure he managed to think of it....
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Post by itgen on Feb 23, 2007 19:39:59 GMT 1
Yes, there is. On most conferences I know, you will be banned for this kind of behaviour. And being banned is probably not the best way to get information or give your opinion. If your upset to your wife, your boss, your teachers: do you always say what you think? Guess not! If I said what I thought there would be a goord reason to ban mey IP from this game forever So no, I don't always say what I think, I just chose to express me this way quite deliberately....
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Post by stealthisnick on Feb 23, 2007 19:42:03 GMT 1
that would be much better than all the nonsense that's going on today no way now it's far from the perfect situation but surely better than before
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Post by itgen on Feb 23, 2007 19:44:30 GMT 1
Surely it's better for a game to have teams that signed up, results, memberships, transfers and tactics made and what have you more, lost forever...
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Post by CableGuy on Feb 23, 2007 19:47:09 GMT 1
Do you realize this is a game? You don't really lose this money. Only on your virtual account, maybe a little.
Do you realize this is the first season of this game? It is obviously not easy to take everything into account, but at least something is moving, and effort is spent to get us a game which is as bug free as possible.
Even if the approach to deal with bugs is not always that perfect, and IP has had is share of bad luck too, we should be aware that this new game has to follow a learning curve.
So, please act a bit more like an adult and not like an idiot who just shouts out every frustration and criticizes every action.
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Post by Berserker on Feb 23, 2007 19:50:50 GMT 1
Sometimes a bug is in your advantage, sometimes it isn't... That's life, just accept it, this is only the first season. Now I have advantage cause now I have all the jerseys after the recalculation, but I also once lost a lot of money and some transfers due to bugs so..
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Post by stealthisnick on Feb 23, 2007 19:51:35 GMT 1
Surely it's better for a game to have teams that signed up, results, memberships, transfers and tactics made and what have you more, lost forever... yes it's better it's transfers and tactics the core of the game it's the results of each race so i don't mind even if i have lost some money on a sold player that next time will be sold for less money
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Post by Schizm on Feb 23, 2007 19:55:31 GMT 1
There is no need to turn this back once again but fact is that the results still are not completely as they have to be, like it is now only cyclists that run for the mountainjersey can win races ...
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Post by gelies on Feb 23, 2007 20:03:35 GMT 1
There is no need to turn this back once again but fact is that the results still are not completely as they have to be, like it is now only cyclists that run for the mountainjersey can win races ... I don't get that! why should it be as you say?
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Post by Auf on Feb 23, 2007 20:03:43 GMT 1
OK, so after winning the first race by some 5 minutes, I lost it with the recalculation for 5 seconds. That's not the only problem... I never got to check the second stage processed today (the bugged one) since the website was down at the time. So when I wanted to check at home I saw the race was about to be processed in minutes, so I hurried up to give the orders. Well, wrong again, looks like none of it went through. And finally, the icing on the cake, one of my cyclists got injured in the first race and appeared in the second I won't even mention that the winner of the races was 5 points ahead of me in Spain 1:1 this morning, about 100 now. I want to keep playing this game, but if there's a huge change planned, at least give us time to prepare for it. What happened today was extremely annoying, maybe the best solution would have been to process the previous backup without any new interventions, at least there would have been the same disadvantages for everyone. Maybe when tampering with the saves/backups was over, you can send me an email to check the races without the feeling of having wasted my time.
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Post by itgen on Feb 23, 2007 20:10:44 GMT 1
I'm not criticizing every effort put in the game, or every frustration I have, and yes, I do understand this is a game and in it's first season too. If you read my posts thoroughly, and I can't blame you if you don't, you'll see I never shout out every frustration and criticize every action. What I'm actually hoping is that the devellopers realise that in creating a succesfull game they shouldn't do things like they did today too hastefully. Today, in my opinion, more damage was done to the game and the enthusiasm of all the players involved, than any good was done to the match results and the progress of this game.
Sure I can get over that, it doesn't ever actually bother me, and sure this isn't about real money, I'm not stupid. (in fact if it we're about real money I would be quite content because due to the recalculations I actually gained money. In the second race, where I was able to adjust my settings in time, I had a rider win, who, this afternoon, lost more then 11 minutes. My overall results are better, and probably the chance of winning the Dauphine is better.. Besides that, last wednesday I injured a rider, which is reset now too) So if I make complains about the effects this recalculation and reset had, I'm not complaining about what ghappend to my team, just about the general process of doing things, the decision making, so to say.
If you want to create a succesfull game, users must be able to rely on the just affair of orders, and the way it has been going lately there isn't a lot of trust in that, from my side. And that is where my frustration lies. Users and developpers alike just seem to act or shout something before thinking it over poperly. There are consequences to that, and I hope this game won't suffer too much of them in the near future.
So in effect my criticism is sort of the same response you gave to my usage of 'obscene language' (I won't repeat the words here to spare your tender souls). I just needed that to get my message clear, so no regrets in using it and if you want to have guarantees that I'm not gonna say stuff like that in the future you should ban me, the best guarantee you can get. But you wouldn't catch me in pointless namecalling or the repeating of insults, no point in that is there. So If to you this is acting more like an idiot than like an adult. Well, I must be an idiot!
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Post by Berserker on Feb 23, 2007 20:12:44 GMT 1
I didn't get the chance either to set my tactics and 100 points is nothing
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Post by itgen on Feb 23, 2007 20:12:51 GMT 1
There is no need to turn this back once again but fact is that the results still are not completely as they have to be, like it is now only cyclists that run for the mountainjersey can win races ... There is need, because the way things went as they did today is terribly unfair to a lot of users of this game....... The results might be correct. The decisionmaking surely isn't.....
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