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Post by captagon on Jan 3, 2009 15:27:10 GMT 1
that wasn't a claim for cheating. He was just saying that, in order to do so, he would have to create a new account, which would be cheating.
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Post by Furbetto on Jan 3, 2009 18:47:47 GMT 1
that wasn't a claim for cheating. He was just saying that, in order to do so, he would have to create a new account, which would be cheating. So, you agree that could be a suspicious behaviour, to win All the races in a season, like this way?
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Post by captagon on Jan 3, 2009 22:39:19 GMT 1
no i don't, where did you get that? I didn't say that in order to do so one would have to have 2 teams, I just explained that for Droopy to win all races in 4th or 3rd division, it would mean he has to create a 2nd account, since he is not a starting team in 3rd or 4th division.
Neither me, nor Droopy accused anyone of cheating, and please stop interpreting otherwise. If I do suspect a cheater, i would not discuss or mention it here on the forum.
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gillias
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Post by gillias on Jan 4, 2009 11:13:13 GMT 1
can you not just check other sites like this how they do it? there is a way to limit people so they can only make one account by limiting it to 1 account per IP adress. Also 1 account per email might make it harder to do so. You might already do this but if you dont, finding out how this is done might do the trick There are always people who still are able to cheat ... just not as many and finding them will be easier
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Post by floppiwoppi on Jan 4, 2009 21:53:30 GMT 1
Maybe you can start using name, address and 1 mailadress/player. One IP-adress. Hmmm don't please.. because we play with 4 members on our work!!* But transfers on 1 IP-adress is strange.. but when you have for example 2 teams.. and you use 1 team at work, 1 team at home.. not easy to check i think.. only when you do several transfers. Otherwise you speak of cheating using 2 teams.. but the crew said.. 1 team for each player!! Winning several years. hmmm.. strange indead.. but maybe possible when you have 3 very good cyclist.. hmmm.. possible in 4 and 3div to win everything.
*about IP-adress Sometimes its really cool to give some tips, or show how good (bad) you're playing. There are no transfers between us.. and we all started together.. Cheating is a desease!!
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Post by Heloo on Jan 11, 2009 16:22:40 GMT 1
This afternoon is was bidding for 2 very similar cyclists who both were sold around the same time as well. But there was another team bidding for the same 2 cyclists. Now i wanted to settle this by making a 'deal'; each team buys one. Would this be consider cheating? I didnt know the other team manager. Anyway, i didnt do it finally, as a 3th team started bidding for a cyclist and i finally just bought both players
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Post by Il Padrino on Jan 11, 2009 17:15:49 GMT 1
No, it's not considered cheating, as long as the transferprice is reasonable. Like you said, a 3rd team joined the bidding, so trying to make arrangements is not a 100% guarantee
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Post by Heloo on Jan 11, 2009 20:18:03 GMT 1
Ok thx for the answer. And i dont think Sterre will complain about the prices paid for his cyclists
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Post by captagon on Jan 12, 2009 23:09:18 GMT 1
No, it's not considered cheating, as long as the transferprice is reasonable. who is to say what's reasonable though... Some people think that being 18 adds some millions to a cyclist's value. Shouldn't these managers be protected from themselves? If a cyclist's skills exactly match my mothers birthdate, and I'm convinced that that will give me the kind of luck to win races, am I allowed to spend millions on that cyclist? Or should it be a wider-spread irrational craze? Am I allowed to spend millions on a 23y/o cyclist with better secondaries and height/weight then a random overpriced 18y/o? That 23 y/o will beat the 18 y/o for the next 10 seasons or so.
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Post by droopy on Feb 3, 2009 16:10:18 GMT 1
I want to sell a cyclist, but I want a newbie (I don't know that newbie in person) to buy that cyclist, to help him/her a bit in the game. So I don't put info on the forum, but in a pm. Is that allowed?
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Post by chakra on Feb 3, 2009 17:37:09 GMT 1
As far as I know it is allowed. There are teams who send pm to each other negotiating a price of a racer. The racer has to be placed on the transferlist and any one can buy him. So you will never be sure that the newbie will be able to buy your racer.
Personnaly I think more experienced should help the newbies in how to subscribe for a race, what tactics can be followed etc. But of course it's to them to find out most of the rules of this fantastic game. To almost every newbie in my serie I give some tips what to do and what certainly not to do. Hereby I refer to this forum and to the wiki. Two amazing things where they can find lots of tips, tactics etc.
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deci
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Post by deci on Feb 6, 2009 22:46:04 GMT 1
I logged in this afternoon on my computer downstairs, but I left a Peloton-internetpage open on my computer upstairs. I hope I don't got suspended because of that. It wasn't ment to. ever heard of private and public IP ? since you have two computers at home they have the same public IP at the internet ... so even when you login at the other computer at your home it will show the global public ip ... at home it is true you have two different (private) adresses
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deci
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Post by deci on Feb 6, 2009 22:55:16 GMT 1
Maybe you can start using name, address and 1 mailadress/player. One IP-adress. Hmmm don't please.. because we play with 4 members on our work!!* But transfers on 1 IP-adress is strange.. but when you have for example 2 teams.. and you use 1 team at work, 1 team at home.. not easy to check i think.. only when you do several transfers. Otherwise you speak of cheating using 2 teams.. but the crew said.. 1 team for each player!! Winning several years. hmmm.. strange indead.. but maybe possible when you have 3 very good cyclist.. hmmm.. possible in 4 and 3div to win everything. *about IP-adress Sometimes its really cool to give some tips, or show how good (bad) you're playing. There are no transfers between us.. and we all started together.. Cheating is a desease!! hello br0 (this is my big brother) You don't get the strategy behind IP adress restrictions they do notice what IP adresses are property of public places like schools and libraries and what IP adresses are for personal use ... such things can be looked up I bet they have a huge database right now of public and private ip's So fraud can allways be detected unless you have an account at work and one at home Also I do think users must not have an account in another country ... of course you can get rid of the IP using a Proxy but that's for big cheaters who have the money, knowledge or capabilities ... ps: don't login anymore at my place !!!
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Post by chakra on Mar 27, 2009 6:22:51 GMT 1
It seems that cheaters are NOT being dealt with immediately. On the contrary! There are several combinations of teams mentionned allready since beginning of february and rementionned at the beginning march but they are still active! Sure they use different IP-adresses, they are not stupid, but in some cases it is oh so obvious. All the team-ID's were given, racer-ID, who is buyning from who, giving tips to look at the buyers transfers, etc... BUT... There are combinations up to 6 teams all related to one advantaged team, another one is a combination of 3 or even perhaps 4 teams. I even think that some team-managers were banned earlier in a higher Div and restarted another team with approximately the same name!!! I thought it was the meaning of keeping the game honest? And that we could mention cheaters and they are being dealt with immediately? IP, or moderators, designers, or who ever of the organisation can there be given any explication then to the team mentionning a cheater, why the mentionned cheating-team is not banned? Or a little PM the team is banned? I know some teams will be angry at me now (I don't know the translation in English but in Dutch we say: "Wie het schoentje past, trekke het aan" - perhaps someone can translate this to correct English) , but I know too that other teams will be glad that some one dares to mention this on the forum. For the teams who think they are being set up by other teams, I'm sure they allways can mention it to IP, either on the forum or by sending a PM. WE hope, and that is all of the fair players, that something will be done against these kind of practices.
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Post by Il Padrino on Mar 27, 2009 8:39:03 GMT 1
When/if cheaters are banned, the team who reported is never notified.
But I confess that there is a big list now of suspected cheaters. I'll wade through it this weekend.
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