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Post by ElGringo on Oct 13, 2011 12:22:49 GMT 1
Hi, I was checking the Peloton wiki and it says for FA:
Future ability is a very important factor, but only when the skill has reached a minimum of 10. For skills lower than 10, future ability won't have any impact on the training. Once the skill has reached a value of 10, the cyclist's FA for the skill will be taken into account and this will determine if the cyclist is really talented enough to improve further.
Each skill has its own FA, so if you notice your cyclist not improving fast enough after reaching 10, there's a good chance that his talent lies elsewhere and you should consider training another skill.
So the question is:
What factor is taking in account to the raise of skill until 10?
We see that riders have diferent growing by is TV.
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Post by Quatannens on Oct 13, 2011 13:07:48 GMT 1
They all train with FA=20 untill they have reached 7 (so not 10 as mentioned in the article). The only thing that has an impact on the training speed is the age I guess.
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Post by Il Padrino on Oct 13, 2011 14:14:42 GMT 1
Training speed depends on cyclist's age and FA, and also the trainer's skill
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Post by lee1950 on Oct 13, 2011 14:52:41 GMT 1
They all train with FA=20 untill they have reached 7 (so not 10 as mentioned in the article). The only thing that has an impact on the training speed is the age I guess. Updated wiki so it shows "7" not 10 for FA.  Questions on FA: 1) What is the minimum FA for a skill? 2) Does the level of the Youthscout have any impact on FA? Thanks! |
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Post by ElGringo on Oct 13, 2011 19:49:26 GMT 1
They all train with FA=20 untill they have reached 7 . I dont think so.... |
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Post by ElGringo on Oct 13, 2011 19:49:53 GMT 1
Training speed depends on cyclist's age and FA, and also the trainer's skill So FA still have an influence on skill under 10. The exponential is for individual skills our the sum of all skills? |
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Post by Schizm on Oct 13, 2011 20:31:23 GMT 1
Training speed depends on cyclist's age and FA, and also the trainer's skill So FA still have an influence on skill under 10. The exponential is for individual skills our the sum of all skills? Like said above it is until 7 and FA should have no influence until then. But height of the trained skill, age and the skill of trainer do. This plus a random factor explain the differences in TV increase. |
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Post by jellow on Oct 14, 2011 8:26:47 GMT 1
Any idea on how much age impacts the training speed?
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Post by ElGringo on Oct 14, 2011 8:31:52 GMT 1
Any idea on how much age impacts the training speed? In a old formula was (1000-age) I think, but correct me if I´m wrong. |
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Post by Schizm on Oct 14, 2011 9:29:00 GMT 1
in the old formula it was x/1+(age/1000) for the calculation of the TransferValue.
in the (very) old formula (of the beta version) for trainingprogress it was : x * 1 + ((30 - age) / 100)
but since then a lot has changed : more impact of the age , impact of the height of the trained skill ... etc.
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Post by ElGringo on Oct 14, 2011 12:43:54 GMT 1
in the old formula it was x/1+(age/1000) for the calculation of the TransferValue. in the (very) old formula (of the beta version) for trainingprogress it was : x * 1 + ((30 - age) / 100) The 1st formula for age dont make sense. In the first one if age/1000 so riders with more age have bigger TV and thats the oposite. The 2 formula, if rider have more then 30 years the value will be negative so the TV dont increase to much, so seems better this one. Someone said to me that was (1000-age)/1000 but with no certain. |
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Post by Schizm on Oct 14, 2011 13:21:53 GMT 1
in the old formula it was x/1+(age/1000) for the calculation of the TransferValue. in the (very) old formula (of the beta version) for trainingprogress it was : x * 1 + ((30 - age) / 100) The 1st formula for age dont make sense. In the first one if age/1000 so riders with more age have bigger TV and thats the oposite. I'll write it in full so you can see it makes sense. Transfervalue without ageimpact / 1+(age/1000) = Transfervalue with ageimpact. so to calculate the TV without age you have to indeed multiply (instead of divide) the shown TV |
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Post by lee1950 on Oct 14, 2011 17:55:51 GMT 1
Questions on FA:
1) What is the minimum FA for a skill?
2) Does the level of the Youthscout have any impact on FA?
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Post by Schizm on Oct 14, 2011 18:45:35 GMT 1
1) zero (I guess)
2) Not anymore in Peloton v2
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Post by lee1950 on Oct 14, 2011 20:40:47 GMT 1
Wow - so roughly 1/3 of riders will top out at 7 on some skills when their virtual FA20 ends. I guess we'll be finding out in about 20 weeks. Thanks! |
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