order of actions on sunday update - Trainer

[Mike]

Hi

Question: What comes first at the end of a training season (16 weeks)?

Does the decrease in random skill come before the learning or unlearning of a skill?

example 20 TT will decrease because it's the highest skill of all trainings possibilities.
Does this happen before learning a skill for example hill from 19 to level 20? Or is it possible hill becomes level 20 and decreases random because TT is also at level 20?

[rarau]

i dont understand very good your question.

the decrease in random skill is for all skills better then 15 if i remember, not only for the best skill.


For example you have
17 flat , 16 downhill , 20 tt and 18 sprint. The other are 0.
One of this 4 skils could decrease.

[Mike]

sorry rarau you are wrong
the highest skill wil decrease when above 15, but when there are more than 1 higher and equal skill the choice for decrease is random

so in youre example 20 tt will allways decrease

My question is what happens first in the sunday update: training decrease or learning/un-learning trainer



Here is an answer in a different topic

Dec 12, 2019 14:50:11 GMT 1 eboese said:

No, it's the higher skill. So hill 20 will go down to 15 in this case.

Edit: the wiki also seems to argue it's a random one though, so now I'm not fully sure anymore. I usually bring one skill to 20 right before the decrease (and keep others at 19) and I think the 20 rated skill always went down, but I might be mistaken?

Dec 12, 2019 14:55:29 GMT 1 Ab Normaal said:

Absolutely not random. Eboese is right. The highest will always fall back. So if you want to have any influence you'll have to make sure that the skill you want him to drop in, is the highest.

[rarau]

Sorry then

i dont remember this (The highest will always fall back)

i have always 2 skills at 18 and i thinked that is random

good to know for me too

[JoeLag]

Sept 29, 2021 15:26:00 GMT 1 Mike said:

Hi

Question: What comes first at the end of a training season (16 weeks)?

Does the decrease in random skill come before the learning or unlearning of a skill?

example 20 TT will decrease because it's the highest skill of all trainings possibilities.
Does this happen before learning a skill for example hill from 19 to level 20? Or is it possible hill becomes level 20 and decreases random because TT is also at level 20?

--- Week Update ---
1. Cyclist training / injury (either one, but not both)
2. If the cyclist is injured, he's healed by 1 week.
3. Trainer decreases in random skill
4. Trainer is trained
5. Trainer's wage is updated according to skillvalues at this point
6. Repeat steps 3-5 for the youthscout

So the answer for your question: 3. Trainer decrease comes before 4. Trainer is trained

[eboese]

Not 100% sure, but I think the decrease comes before the learning/un-learning. In the past I've kept training the skill that I knew was going to decrease and after the update it would be at 16 (not 15), suggesting it decreased from 20 to 15 first and +1 (learning) was added right after.

EDIT: yeah, too slow , already confirmed by Joe

[Mike]

ok thx, it's what I expected