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Post by ElGringo on Aug 24, 2020 23:52:16 GMT 1
berdios thanks for the sugeestions. I will not specify but I agree with some and I don't agree with others. I wish we could update things every season but for that we need someone to do it. Arno makes the game happens by paying the server but we need to find a solution for next year(May) or the game will end. I am doing my best to keep the game running without problems, I have limites knowledge of programation and what I do was by learning with Nikeboy and Schizm. I am in competition like Arno so we don't have acess to the code. I alwasy searching to see if I found someone that whats to help, I even check some informatic engineers that are study to help witht he code and to help creating the app for mobile. The only one with the code is Schizm but right now is real life/ lost of motivation don't let him do nothing for the game. He started fine tunning the new engine but still need a lot of work before we can start with it, could be more real but need to fix parameters to make it more attractive and real. I had found a manager to help, he told that would have a look at the code and start fixing things but he never gave a feedback and I saw that he become bot this weekend. The number of managers isn't growing, lets see witht he start of the grand tours in real life the number of managers increase like in other years and hope that some of the new like it and keep playing but isn't easy, this new generation whats things to happen fast or like we see they don't deal well with losing, so when they promote and don't win the stop playing instead of finding solutions. I had share the game in foruns and in newspappers messages related to cycling but right now I stopped because of lack of time to do that. So right now we are in survival mode. We need help to keep going and to improve.
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Post by JoeLag on Aug 25, 2020 11:23:37 GMT 1
This is sad. Actually I like the game because it is so slow paced. But ok - I'm 51 now - it really might be out of time for a younger audience.
Problem with some of berdios' ideas is that they aim at the aspect that I like the most (that is: slow pace)
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Post by ElGringo on Aug 25, 2020 12:15:03 GMT 1
This is sad. Actually I like the game because it is so slow paced. But ok - I'm 51 now - it really might be out of time for a younger audience. Problem with some of berdios' ideas is that they aim at the aspect that I like the most (that is: slow pace) Don't think you are old, I believe that many of us playing are more then 40, I guess there are some 30´s and few 20´years playing but we can found young people that like things slow too
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Post by ElGringo on Aug 26, 2020 22:54:12 GMT 1
]It will be a shame to pull the plug next year May. This game has so much potential.. If we go all out and all take our responsibility financially, we can still hire a proffecional What is needed, what do you ask from us Melres? Thanks for the support. We need to find a way to keep the game running, I am fighting for years to keep the game running. I already propose Arno to find a new host server since I think this one is very expensive, Arno need to speak to Dave to see what involve the tranfer of the things in the host server. The solution is to create shares like Mike suggest some time ago and people get a part, I don't have the values in my head but supose the game custs are 800€ ( is near the real value) and if we have for example 20 managers that want to pay a part it will be 40€. In the end of a year we can check the money that enter with premium and distribute for that 20 managers or keep it to make publicity or to pay somenone to make an app for mobile. This seems the quick solution to keep the game. There is other solution taht Arno will check about, there is and Italian group( maxz) that some time ago wanted to buy the game and it seems that they have a programmer, so this could be maybe a long term solution for the game if they invest in the game. To change things in the code isn't easy, because the person need to kwon well the game and that isn't easy. The best solution that I see is to speak with Dave or Nico and see if they are interested in doing adjust to the game and see how much they want to do it. It could be affordable for one manager to keep the game and pay if we had more managers playing the game, more manager/more premium. And I am just speaking about this, I and Frank we never asked nothing for the time we spend adjust things, preparing seasons or fixing bugs.
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Post by Mike on Aug 27, 2020 6:05:03 GMT 1
Good idea. I support this and like you said... also candidat for buying shares to spread costs.
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Post by tiagoiowa on Aug 27, 2020 22:49:01 GMT 1
]It will be a shame to pull the plug next year May. This game has so much potential.. If we go all out and all take our responsibility financially, we can still hire a proffecional What is needed, what do you ask from us Melres? Thanks for the support. We need to find a way to keep the game running, I am fighting for years to keep the game running. I already propose Arno to find a new host server since I think this one is very expensive, Arno need to speak to Dave to see what involve the tranfer of the things in the host server. The solution is to create shares like Mike suggest some time ago and people get a part, I don't have the values in my head but supose the game custs are 800€ ( is near the real value) and if we have for example 20 managers that want to pay a part it will be 40€. In the end of a year we can check the money that enter with premium and distribute for that 20 managers or keep it to make publicity or to pay somenone to make an app for mobile. This seems the quick solution to keep the game. There is other solution taht Arno will check about, there is and Italian group( maxz) that some time ago wanted to buy the game and it seems that they have a programmer, so this could be maybe a long term solution for the game if they invest in the game. To change things in the code isn't easy, because the person need to kwon well the game and that isn't easy. The best solution that I see is to speak with Dave or Nico and see if they are interested in doing adjust to the game and see how much they want to do it. It could be affordable for one manager to keep the game and pay if we had more managers playing the game, more manager/more premium. And I am just speaking about this, I and Frank we never asked nothing for the time we spend adjust things, preparing seasons or fixing bugs. I want to help the game, not only on a calendar, if the option of the 20 goes on I would pay 40 euros annually to keep the game online
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Post by berdios on Sept 20, 2020 19:43:49 GMT 1
I have a question for you, "How can my Pogačar win the Tour the France?"
Looking at the Tour the France and being amazed, simply blown away, like everyone else today I'm wondering. How can an 21 year old cyclist win the Tour the France? Well answer is simple, he was the best rider in the Tour. He did not have the best team and it was his first Tour the France ever. He did proved himself one of the best last year in the Vuelta, still no one could have though he would win, even the man himself was "just happy he could participate". This gets us thinking, if a 21 year old cyclist can do this in real life, what about our game? What can we change? There are simple solutions and there are harder ones.
First of all, this simple one, I think this can be fitness, we can play with fitness, why not. If I have a 40y old rider or a 18y old one, they lose the same amount of fitness every race and they get the same amount every Sunday. Why not play with this? Why not give young cyclist more fitness every Sunday or make them lose less fitness every race ex. use 10% lose 5%? We can even go further, why not make this a hidden skill? All 18-21y old get like 40 fitness every week. Or, lose only half of there fitness they use. Then as they get older the start to lose more and more or gain less and less. I know there are lots of suggestions in one sentence. (1) Increase fitness with one training for youngsters (2) and/or less fitness use for youngsters (3) make recuperation a hidden skill that slowly gets visible over time, ex. start with 40 and start decrease once they hit 21 then some lose faster then others?
Next up and sightly harder, change the way the training works. Now you train a rider on flat, then as you train him for 10 years he gets very good on flat. Well is that logical? If you see ex. Evenepoel ride his bike in an ITT he is the best on all terrain. Even flat ITT's he is the best. Compare to our old friend Tony Martin. Don't get met wrong I like Martin. The 20y old Evenepoel would win from Martin every day in real live, in the game Martin would be Flat20 and TT20 unstoppable in every flat race. Suggestion: why not fluctuate the skills of cyclist more. If you train flat you get better in flat, you lose other skills. If you ride a hard race like tour the France you lose some of your skills temporary, you need to rebuild the older you get the slower you can recuperate. Example: I have a cyclist 25y of age, we give him 2 flat skill's, first is his current level, second is his maximum level. If I train flat and I get him to his max level this will increase. If I start training him in hill, he will lose some of his current level flat, if I use him 100% in a race he will lose some of all his current levels.
That was what I though of today, looking at the most popular cycling race of the year. Any thoughts?
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Post by Mike on Sept 21, 2020 15:56:15 GMT 1
It's ok to try to simulate real life. But this sugestion is over the hill.
Srry it's only my opinion, not trying to be negative.
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Post by jakebremner on Sept 22, 2020 17:34:09 GMT 1
hi everyone, im new to the game (one day playing) im use to slow paced game so this is my kind of game. ive read the forums as much as i can in the last 24 hours and ive read a few times about people saying the game will last 1 more year. its kind of worrying for new players to start a slow paced game and wonder if the game will still be around next year. is it worth putting time and effort into this game with a chance of it being gone. in that year i take it my cyclists still wont be very good, i wont have much money and i wont have progressed a lot, so is it really worth it? i feel newer managers should start with better quality riders or training a little quicker. maybe a little bit more money so you could go and buy some better riders.
Ive read a lot about premium but i have no idea what premium is? maybe it should be advertised a little more so new managers would purchase it and help the game as i would be willing to pay a few £ a month if i actually new what it gave me?
would a discord channel benefit the community as i feel forums could be out dated for a few members and a discord channel might bring the community together more
i could be talking a lot of rubbish as i have only played for one day but thats my first opinion of the game .
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Post by ElGringo on Sept 23, 2020 12:43:50 GMT 1
hi everyone, im new to the game (one day playing) im use to slow paced game so this is my kind of game. ive read the forums as much as i can in the last 24 hours and ive read a few times about people saying the game will last 1 more year. its kind of worrying for new players to start a slow paced game and wonder if the game will still be around next year. is it worth putting time and effort into this game with a chance of it being gone. in that year i take it my cyclists still wont be very good, i wont have much money and i wont have progressed a lot, so is it really worth it? i feel newer managers should start with better quality riders or training a little quicker. maybe a little bit more money so you could go and buy some better riders. Ive read a lot about premium but i have no idea what premium is? maybe it should be advertised a little more so new managers would purchase it and help the game as i would be willing to pay a few £ a month if i actually new what it gave me? would a discord channel benefit the community as i feel forums could be out dated for a few members and a discord channel might bring the community together more i could be talking a lot of rubbish as i have only played for one day but thats my first opinion of the game . Thanks for join Peloton, the game is fantastic but need adjusts. He have plans for that but right now no programmer to deal with it. The game will not end, so you can play safely, we just need to find a way to change the way the game costs.
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Post by Poekie on Sept 23, 2020 22:00:39 GMT 1
Read about premium here: peloton-game.com/shop.aspxI think as a new member you have premium for some time. I am not very familiar with Discord, but it is something to consider. Hope you will stay around and enjoy the game!
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Post by wheelnut on Sept 28, 2020 15:40:05 GMT 1
Some interesting ideas for sure...
My views are broadly inline with this...
In addition we could make skills not linear on increase but exponential i.e. To get 10 in flat as normal but after this maybe twice as slow and even third times as slow after 13 level. This would stop super skills with very low skills in other areas. Gives more rounded cyclists.
we could have an extra skill around fitness called 'recovery time' so some cyclists could have a high skill in this and recover quicker i.e. get back a higher fitness score. We could train stamina or recovery with a skilled trainer in this. Variable recovery or weekly fitness gain could add a different perspective and tactics to the game.
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Post by Ab Normaal on Nov 11, 2020 14:32:24 GMT 1
----------------- IMPORTANT MESSAGE -----------------
I need your attention dear managers. As most of you know I am paying for this game, I won't repeat the entire story how that happened, you can find it somewhere here if you want to know.
My kids are getting older and the first one started studying already, the second one will start in September. Unfortunately in Holland you will have to pay for that yourself completely and since kids cannot afford that, it is up to the parents to do that. This means I have to carefully consider how I spend my money.
That also means that I cannot afford to pay for this entire lot. That means that I need to find a solution to keep this game alive. Helder already mentioned we probably need to find another, cheaper, server. I know absolutely nothing about computers. For me this is all abracadabra. I just payed for the one the original developer used. Finding another takes knowledge, and probably some things to do that I don't understand.
Other options to raise money so the game can fund itself is raising premium money (which, to be honest, I don't want to, because I don't want to create something that some managers can't afford), raising the number of managers (which isn't easy if we don't improve certain aspects of the game), ask managers who can afford it to make a donation or find a developer who wants to develop the game, make it bigger and generate more money through more managers. The last is of course the best option, but Schizm, Helder and I tried that, but we couldn't find anyone.
So dear managers, we need your help to keep this game running. It is not that I can't pay anything anymore, it is just that I can't afford to pay for the difference between the server costs and the premium money alone.
Concrete ideas and/or suggestions?
Thanks for your attention.
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Post by Mike on Nov 11, 2020 15:33:46 GMT 1
Up Premium, despite that you do'nt want to. At the moment it's cheap. Look for things you can ad to Premium to make it interesting. I'll trie to find suggestions later.
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Post by Poekie on Nov 11, 2020 16:32:44 GMT 1
I am not an computer expert, but I have worked for an ISP and I do know something about servers and hosting. What are the requirements for running the game?
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