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Post by Stinus1986 on Nov 15, 2018 14:20:05 GMT 1
Well Serwy came close though. Withouth the difference in mood, he would had probably won. I think so. Well done! I'm curious what his TT is right now, because in previous TT's he was close behind Van Heeswijk, but never this close. And I even had to mood-boost Van Heeswijk. His stats are: 7-2-1-2-1-8.7
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Post by headcase on Nov 15, 2018 15:45:05 GMT 1
This flat skill seems to be very decisive (at least more decisive then I thought). Hazeleger has 9 TT, but only 2 flat and is 1 min 42 sec slower.
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Post by bosko on Nov 16, 2018 12:04:04 GMT 1
Seems logic. If you calculate a "timetrialscore" for every cyclist: FL + 2xTT, than you get following figures for the cyclists I know (Let's say "very happy" means about 5% extra compared to "content")
1. van Heeswijk: 4 + 2x9.6 = 23.2 x 1.05 = 24.4 2. Serwy: 7 + 2x8.7 = 24.4 3. De Caria: 7 + 2x7 = 21 x 1.05 = 22.05 4. Oudenaarden: 21.2 5. Hazeleger: 2 + 2x9 = 20 6. Bruinstroop: 2 + 2x8.4 = 18.8 x 1.05 = 19.8 7. Detant: ? 8. Panucci: 19 9. Everts: 5 + 2x6.8 = 18.6 (guessing numbers by the given hints) 10. Nees: ?
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Post by JoeLag on Nov 16, 2018 17:47:26 GMT 1
This formula 2xTT + terrain skill seems quite appropriate to me from all my experience. I used to make big series of ITT fun races some years ago just to test this out and came about to the same idea.
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Post by headcase on Nov 19, 2018 9:31:19 GMT 1
Congratulations to Stinus en newborn for their promotion. Well deserved, you rode a good season and I'm glad your teams are gone to a higher division Goodluck GIK, Etienne, Zweters and Schizm in your new league in the next season. Thanks to all for a brilliant season. I had a blast with you guys and I hope forum activity will remain this high in Season 22. Thanks bosko for the weekly updates. I'm looking forward to the final one.
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Post by bosko on Nov 19, 2018 9:40:02 GMT 1
Final StandingsNr | Team | RW | TJ | PJ | MJ | YJ | Pnts | Pnts % | Ptns Wk | Ptns Wk % | Rank Wk | Rank Diff | 1 | Groenenhoek | 16 | 7 | 6 | 3 | 2 | 6733 | 22,65% | 654 | 30% | 1 | 0 | 2 | Neo | 15 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 3987 | 13,41% | 517 | 23,72% | 2 | 0 | 3 | WC VroOom | 10 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 8 | 2942 | 9,9% | 124 | 5,69% | 7 | 0 | 4 | KS Crusaders | 8 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2882 | 9,69% | 209 | 9,59% | 4 | 0 | 5 | StreetFighters | 17 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2787 | 9,38% | 210 | 9,63% | 3 | 0 | 6 | SpartaB | 7 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 2680 | 9,02% | 186 | 8,53% | 5 | 1 | 7 | Bolt Thrower | 12 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 2556 | 8,6% | 51 | 2,34% | 8 | -1 | 8 | Headcase Pro Cycling | 9 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2477 | 8,33% | 172 | 7,89% | 6 | 0 | 9 | GIK team | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1557 | 5,24% | 6 | 0,28% | 11 | 0 | 10 | St-Etienne cyclo team | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 638 | 2,15% | 28 | 1,28% | 9 | 0 | 11 | DeZweters | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 303 | 1,02% | 18 | 0,83% | 10 | 0 | 12 | Schizmano Development | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 186 | 0,63% | 5 | 0,23% | 12 | 0 |
Congrats to Groenenhoek and Neo! The points of the last week show the difference between the top 2 and the others. Good luck in DIV 1.1 against all those strong dutchies! Week 16: RacesNr | Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4-5 | 6-10 | Total | 1 | Groenenhoek | 1 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 13 | 2 | Neo | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 11 | 3 | WC VroOom | | 1 | | 2 | 1 | 4 | 4 | KS Crusaders | 1 | | 1 | | 3 | 5 | 5 | StreetFighters | 1 | | | | 4 | 5 | 6 | SpartaB | | | 1 | 2 | 7 | 10 | 7 | Bolt Thrower | | | | 1 | 2 | 3 | 8 | Headcase Pro Cycling | 1 | | | 2 | 2 | 5 | 9 | GIK team | | | | | | 0 | 10 | St-Etienne cyclo team | | | | | 2 | 2 | 11 | DeZweters | | | | | 2 | 2 | 12 | Schizmano Development | | | | | | 0 |
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Post by bosko on Nov 19, 2018 9:48:45 GMT 1
The whole season in numbers:
Week 1-16: Race resultsNr | Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4-5 | 6-10 | Total | 1 | Groenenhoek | 16 | 32 | 21 | 41 | 55 | 165 | 2 | Neo | 14 | 7 | 15 | 24 | 47 | 107 | 3 | WC VroOom | 10 | 11 | 8 | 15 | 38 | 82 | 4 | KS Crusaders | 8 | 10 | 12 | 22 | 62 | 114 | 5 | StreetFighters | 17 | 9 | 6 | 16 | 36 | 84 | 6 | SpartaB | 7 | 8 | 10 | 16 | 49 | 90 | 7 | Bolt Thrower | 12 | 5 | 7 | 16 | 43 | 83 | 8 | Headcase Pro Cycling | 8 | 6 | 7 | 20 | 39 | 80 | 9 | GIK team | 2 | 4 | 5 | 9 | 37 | 57 | 10 | St-Etienne cyclo team | 0 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 38 | 45 | 11 | DeZweters | 0 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 21 | 26 | 12 | Schizmano Development | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 7 |
Week 1-16: Tour GC resultsNr | Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4-5 | 6-10 | Total | 1 | Groenenhoek | 7 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 24 | 2 | Neo | 1 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 15 | 3 | WC VroOom | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 7 | 14 | 4 | KS Crusaders | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 10 | 17 | 5 | StreetFighters | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 10 | 6 | SpartaB | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 10 | 14 | 7 | Bolt Thrower | 1 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 8 | Headcase Pro Cycling | 1 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 11 | 9 | GIK team | 1 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 9 | 10 | St-Etienne cyclo team | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 11 | DeZweters | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 12 | Schizmano Development | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
Points progress troughout the season:
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Post by Stinus1986 on Nov 19, 2018 13:03:48 GMT 1
Thanks for the stats, Bosko.
It was definitely a great season for me. My tactic of spreading my riders rather than going for day wins, really paid out. I doubt if it will work in Div 1.
Good luck all next season!
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Post by evild on Nov 19, 2018 19:21:32 GMT 1
Thnx for the stats bosko, Nice job. Congrats to neo and Stinus, good luck in DIV. 1. You will need it:) piece of advice, use the same tactic as you did this season. They all hunt for stage wins in div.1, and i dont think your riders are strong enough to beat them. A GC win has to be the goal.
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Post by pollyjean on Nov 19, 2018 21:08:55 GMT 1
The whole season in numbers:
Week 1-16: Race resultsNr | Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4-5 | 6-10 | Total | 1 | Groenenhoek | 16 | 32 | 21 | 41 | 55 | 165 | 2 | Neo | 14 | 7 | 15 | 24 | 47 | 107 | 3 | WC VroOom | 10 | 11 | 8 | 15 | 38 | 82 | 4 | KS Crusaders | 8 | 10 | 12 | 22 | 62 | 114 | 5 | StreetFighters | 17 | 9 | 6 | 16 | 36 | 84 | 6 | SpartaB | 7 | 8 | 10 | 16 | 49 | 90 | 7 | Bolt Thrower | 12 | 5 | 7 | 16 | 43 | 83 | 8 | Headcase Pro Cycling | 8 | 6 | 7 | 20 | 39 | 80 | 9 | GIK team | 2 | 4 | 5 | 9 | 37 | 57 | 10 | St-Etienne cyclo team | 0 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 38 | 45 | 11 | DeZweters | 0 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 21 | 26 | 12 | Schizmano Development | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 7 |
Week 1-16: Tour GC resultsNr | Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4-5 | 6-10 | Total | 1 | Groenenhoek | 7 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 24 | 2 | Neo | 1 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 15 | 3 | WC VroOom | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 7 | 14 | 4 | KS Crusaders | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 10 | 17 | 5 | StreetFighters | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 10 | 6 | SpartaB | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 10 | 14 | 7 | Bolt Thrower | 1 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 8 | Headcase Pro Cycling | 1 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 11 | 9 | GIK team | 1 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 9 | 10 | St-Etienne cyclo team | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 11 | DeZweters | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 12 | Schizmano Development | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
Points progress troughout the season:View Attachment Nice graph. Neo and gik seem to have got some kind of Transformation during the season?
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Post by headcase on Nov 20, 2018 9:05:54 GMT 1
Week 1-16: Tour GC resultsNr | Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4-5 | 6-10 | Total | 1 | Groenenhoek | 7 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 24 | 2 | Neo | 1 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 15 | 3 | WC VroOom | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 7 | 14 | 4 | KS Crusaders | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 10 | 17 | 5 | StreetFighters | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 10 | 6 | SpartaB | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 10 | 14 | 7 | Bolt Thrower | 1 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 8 | Headcase Pro Cycling | 1 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 11 | 9 | GIK team | 1 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 9 | 10 | St-Etienne cyclo team | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 11 | DeZweters | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 12 | Schizmano Development | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
I don't agree with you on this list. Michaux was third in Japan, so I expect a 1 in the 3-column. There were 16 tours and I count 14 1's, 15 2's and 14 3's. Still the general picture is as expected: all teams had the results that corresponds with their final position and StreetFighters had his focus on one-day-races. Thanks for the weekly and overall stats!
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Post by bosko on Nov 20, 2018 9:55:50 GMT 1
Thanx for noticing! Everything had 14 results, I accidently forgot Japan and Vuelta... I count everything manually, so can happen, but now I've added a "controle" in my excel so I should notice that for next season. In the race results I also had 1 small mistake. Correct figures: Week 1-16: Race resultsNr | Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4-5 | 6-10 | Total | 1 | Groenenhoek | 16 | 31 | 22 | 41 | 55 | 165 | 2 | Neo | 14 | 7 | 15 | 24 | 47 | 107 | 3 | WC VroOom | 10 | 11 | 8 | 15 | 38 | 82 | 4 | KS Crusaders | 8 | 10 | 12 | 22 | 62 | 114 | 5 | StreetFighters | 17 | 9 | 6 | 16 | 36 | 84 | 6 | SpartaB | 7 | 8 | 10 | 16 | 49 | 90 | 7 | Bolt Thrower | 12 | 5 | 7 | 16 | 43 | 83 | 8 | Headcase Pro Cycling | 8 | 6 | 7 | 20 | 39 | 80 | 9 | GIK team | 2 | 4 | 5 | 9 | 37 | 57 | 10 | St-Etienne cyclo team | 0 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 38 | 45 | 11 | DeZweters | 0 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 21 | 26 | 12 | Schizmano Development | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 7 |
Week 1-16: Tour GC resultsNr | Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4-5 | 6-10 | Total | 1 | Groenenhoek | 7 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 8 | 27 | 2 | Neo | 2 | 4 | 3 | 7 | 2 | 18 | 3 | WC VroOom | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 8 | 16 | 4 | KS Crusaders | 1 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 12 | 21 | 5 | StreetFighters | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 10 | 6 | SpartaB | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 11 | 15 | 7 | Bolt Thrower | 1 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 11 | 19 | 8 | Headcase Pro Cycling | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 13 | 9 | GIK team | 1 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 9 | 10 | St-Etienne cyclo team | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 9 | 11 | DeZweters | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 12 | Schizmano Development | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
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Post by bosko on Nov 20, 2018 9:59:37 GMT 1
Nice graph. Neo and gik seem to have got some kind of Transformation during the season? Neo was very consistent. He only had 2 weeks (week 2 and 3) where he wasn't able to reach the peloton site because of holiday. GIK tried to hold on as long as he could, but Lamego (his main source for points) got weaker (because of his age + lot of fitness training) and when he saw he wouldn't be able to stay in 2.1, he sold him.
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Post by headcase on Nov 20, 2018 10:39:41 GMT 1
TEAM | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4- 5 | 6-10 | Total | Groenenhoek
| 2 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 8 | Neo | 1 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 8 | WC Vro0om
| 8 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 6 | 21 | KS Crusaders | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 6 | StreetFighters | 1 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 10 | 18 | SpartaB | 3 | 3 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 22 | Bolt Thrower | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 9 | 10 | Headcase Pro Cycling | 0 | 2 | 0 | 7 | 11 | 20 | GIK team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 15 | St-Etienne cyclo team | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 7 | DeZweters | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 6 | Schizmano Development | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 14 | 17 |
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Post by Mike on Nov 20, 2018 22:19:04 GMT 1
ellow At last in an active forum division hehe
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