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Post by helmbrecht on Sept 18, 2017 11:17:37 GMT 1
Yesterday, Sunday, the Giro started. After the first stage, two of my 5 riders were injured in training. One of them only for one week. So he will be fit for the Giro's last stages. Will he ride them, or is he disqualified after missing some stages this week?
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Post by heppie on Sept 18, 2017 12:27:43 GMT 1
Yesterday, Sunday, the Giro started. After the first stage, two of my 5 riders were injured in training. One of them only for one week. So he will be fit for the Giro's last stages. Will he ride them, or is he disqualified after missing some stages this week? The latter, injured cyclist are removed from the race. By the way, you are very unlucky with two of your giro cyclist getting injured in the same training... |
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Post by helmbrecht on Sept 18, 2017 14:08:21 GMT 1
By the way, you are very unlucky with two of your giro cyclist getting injured in the same training... Yes, that is the impression I got. It is the first time in my 4 or 5 weeks here that I have training injuries, and then it hits two of my five Giro-riders after the very first day - actually two of only three serious riders, the other two are youngsters. This will cost me quite some money. Thanks for tha answer anyway. If they had returned to the race with 100% I would have powered out the other three in the first week. |
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Post by Ab Normaal on Sept 18, 2017 15:27:27 GMT 1
By the way, you are very unlucky with two of your giro cyclist getting injured in the same training... Yes, that is the impression I got. It is the first time in my 4 or 5 weeks here that I have training injuries, and then it hits two of my five Giro-riders after the very first day - actually two of only three serious riders, the other two are youngsters. This will cost me quite some money. Thanks for tha answer anyway. If they had returned to the race with 100% I would have powered out the other three in the first week. I am playing this game since season 2 and it has never happend to me that two riders participating in a tour got injured during training at the same time. So you are extremely unlucky. Something to keep in mind by the way is their balance. Riders with low balance fall more often. And for an injury tou need to fall first. |
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Post by helmbrecht on Sept 18, 2017 15:34:10 GMT 1
Something to keep in mind by the way is their balance. Riders with low balance fall more often. And for an injury tou need to fall first. Is this true for training accidents, too? I have actually three riders injured in total from yesterday's training, and their balance values are between 10 and 16. Two "got their fingers stuck between the front wheel"... |
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Post by rarau on Sept 18, 2017 16:44:36 GMT 1
Something to keep in mind by the way is their balance. Riders with low balance fall more often. And for an injury tou need to fall first. Is this true for training accidents, too? I have actually three riders injured in total from yesterday's training, and their balance values are between 10 and 16. Two "got their fingers stuck between the front wheel"... tell us your team name and division from wiki peloton.wikidot.com/cyclist
There are 2 invisible skills; Injury proneness, and Future ability.
Injury proneness deals with how fragile your cyclist is. A high value for this skill will result in more injuries for this cyclist, either during races or while training.
NOTE: even though this skill is invisible, watchful managers could make a good estimate of a cyclist's injury proneness if they monitor the frequency of their injuries for some time.For training injuries count only Injury proneness |
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Post by heppie on Sept 18, 2017 20:59:07 GMT 1
For clarity, there are two ways a cyclist can get injured:
1. Injuries during training. These injuries may occur after the Sunday update to cyclist that received training. As far as I know, the rate at which these occur is determined by the hidden injury proneness skill solely.
2. Injuries during races. These injuries may occur after a fall in a race. As (for some reason) cyclist cannot fall in ITT's and TTT's they won't get injured in these races. The rate at which a cyclist get injured in this way depends on both the rate at which he falls and the rate at which he get injured after a fall. The latter depends on the injury proneness skill.
I think the rate at which a cyclist falls depends on multiple factors. The main one is his balance skill. Further, cyclist with low downhill skill tend to fall more often at downhill parts. Besides this, I have the impression that cyclists who have difficulties to follow their group, are more likely to fall. (For example cyclist that are low on fitness) However, I don't know if this is true.
By the way, I never investigated it rigorously, but to me it seems that there is no relation between the duration of an injury and the injury proneness of a cyclist. Or are there people who think there is?
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Post by rarau on Sept 19, 2017 8:00:34 GMT 1
Besides this, I have the impression that cyclists who have difficulties to follow their group, are more likely to fall. (For example cyclist that are low on fitness) However, I don't know if this is true.
this part i think is not correct.
i didn't see/notice this in my races.
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Post by JoeLag on Sept 23, 2017 12:13:42 GMT 1
I never let big tour riders participate in the training. And in no case the prospect riders at the beginning of said big tour. Even for the three day races that have the week update included I generally free the prospect riders from training.
Nevertheless that really has been very bad luck.
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Post by helmbrecht on Sept 25, 2017 13:46:20 GMT 1
I never let big tour riders participate in the training. And in no case the prospect riders at the beginning of said big tour. Ah yes, that is an option. Especially if the riders are in their late thirties like in my case. |
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