Training cyclists alternating fitness and other skill

[canguromannaro]

Hi to all!
I'm almost new,
and I'm training cyclists' flat skill not continuosly (I train fitness some weeks).
Until now, I haven't got any increase on flat skill.
In order to obtain such improvement I have to train my cyclist on flat for 5-10 weeks on a row?

Thanks!

[chakra]

Depending on your trainer skill. And the age and the skills of your cyclists.

If the trainers skill is low you'll need several weeks. With a trainer skill 15 it takes 4 to 6 weeks for a cyclist younger than +/- 30 and skill lower than 7.

The older a cyclist gets, the longer training will be needed to pop.

From age 32 skill the cyclists progression takes longer. From age 35 skills will decrease (training or not)

The lower the trainer skill, the longer it takes to increase the skill of a cyclist.

[canguromannaro]

Jul 13, 2017 4:50:48 GMT 1 chakra said:

Depending on your trainer skill. And the age and the skills of your cyclists.

If the trainers skill is low you'll need several weeks. With a trainer skill 15 it takes 4 to 6 weeks for a cyclist younger than +/- 30 and skill lower than 7.

The older a cyclist gets, the longer training will be needed to pop.

From age 32 skill the cyclists progression takes longer. From age 35 skills will decrease (training or not)

The lower the trainer skill, the longer it takes to increase the skill of a cyclist.

Thanks!!!

[rarau]

Jul 12, 2017 17:18:37 GMT 1 canguromannaro said:

Hi to all!
I'm almost new,
and I'm training cyclists' flat skill not continuosly (I train fitness some weeks).
Until now, I haven't got any increase on flat skill.
In order to obtain such improvement I have to train my cyclist on flat for 5-10 weeks on a row?

Thanks!

tell us your team name
and id
and your division

[canguromannaro]

Jul 13, 2017 11:27:21 GMT 1 rarau said:

Jul 12, 2017 17:18:37 GMT 1 canguromannaro said:

Hi to all!
I'm almost new,
and I'm training cyclists' flat skill not continuosly (I train fitness some weeks).
Until now, I haven't got any increase on flat skill.
In order to obtain such improvement I have to train my cyclist on flat for 5-10 weeks on a row?

Thanks!

tell us your team name
and id
and your division

StreetFighters (10669)
Division 5:1

[headcase]

Welcome to peloton!

[rarau]

Jul 12, 2017 17:18:37 GMT 1 canguromannaro said:

Hi to all!
I'm almost new,
and I'm training cyclists' flat skill not continuosly (I train fitness some weeks).
Until now, I haven't got any increase on flat skill.
In order to obtain such improvement I have to train my cyclist on flat for 5-10 weeks on a row?

Thanks!

First how you know that flat skill dont increase? you are not a supporter
You follow the skills on an excel sheet?


trainer
Flat 7
Fitness 10


your trainer flat skill is very low -> train your trainer in flat till 15
For see an improvment you need at least 5 weeks on flat training -> if he is very young and the skills are between 0-7

You know that you could train your cyclists , for example, in other skiils? not all 25 in the same
for example
train 7 cyclists on flat
train 3 on fitness
train 5 on tt
train 6 on sprint and so on

Of course if your trainer skill in that position is near or better 15


you read all stuff from here??

peloton.proboards.com/thread/9008/starting-guide

peloton.proboards.com/thread/553/points-money-supporters-races-tours

and wiki?



for example my trainer


flat 15
Hill 8
Mountain 15

Downhill 8
Sprint 8
Time trial 15


i could train my cyclists on flat, mountain and tt
and hill, downhill and sprint i dont train because are too low

Other user train their trainer till 18 or 20
For me the best is 18 trainer skill

[canguromannaro]

Supporter? I thought i could see skills increase on a message sunday evening. It's not true?

[canguromannaro]

Jul 13, 2017 14:49:52 GMT 1 rarau said:

Jul 12, 2017 17:18:37 GMT 1 canguromannaro said:

Hi to all!
I'm almost new,
and I'm training cyclists' flat skill not continuosly (I train fitness some weeks).
Until now, I haven't got any increase on flat skill.
In order to obtain such improvement I have to train my cyclist on flat for 5-10 weeks on a row?

Thanks!

First how you know that flat skill dont increase? you are not a supporter
You follow the skills on an excel sheet?


trainer
Flat 7
Fitness 10


your trainer flat skill is very low -> train your trainer in flat till 15
For see an improvment you need at least 5 weeks on flat training -> if he is very young and the skills are between 0-7

You know that you could train your cyclists , for example, in other skiils? not all 25 in the same
for example
train 7 cyclists on flat
train 3 on fitness
train 5 on tt
train 6 on sprint and so on

Of course if your trainer skill in that position is near or better 15


you read all stuff from here??

peloton.proboards.com/thread/9008/starting-guide

peloton.proboards.com/thread/553/points-money-supporters-races-tours

and wiki?



for example my trainer


flat 15
Hill 8
Mountain 15

Downhill 8
Sprint 8
Time trial 15


i could train my cyclists on flat, mountain and tt
and hill, downhill and sprint i dont train because are too low

Other user train their trainer till 18 or 20
For me the best is 18 trainer skill

Thank you rarau!
I understood. My trainer is too poor in training skill.

[rarau]

Jul 13, 2017 18:04:24 GMT 1 canguromannaro said:

Supporter? I thought i could see skills increase on a message sunday evening. It's not true?

only if you are supporter

we all , from here, have an excel for follow our team.

[newborn]

Jul 14, 2017 8:00:58 GMT 1 rarau said:

Jul 13, 2017 18:04:24 GMT 1 canguromannaro said:

Supporter? I thought i could see skills increase on a message sunday evening. It's not true?

only if you are supporter

we all , from here, have an excel for follow our team.

rarau means 'If you are Premium member (paying)' then you are supporting the game

only the premium members get the messages every sunday

The first month you received a free month premium, so you got the messages, but after that month you became a normal player so no messages on sunday (when you pay premium you get them back)

[wheelnut]

be careful of costs. You can gradually improve your trainer in a given skill from the training page however this will cost. I used to to keep costs down get a given skill up to 15.
15 is the magic number as it is as high you can go without being reduced by the game engine randomly (when it reduces it goes down to 15 from 15 to 20).
Once you have training skill up to 15 in say flat keep training all at that skill. This is effective up to skill level 7 however training slows for cyclists with skills higher than 7 depending on their hidden talent in a given skill.
Once most are at 7 or higher start to train your trainer in another skill (one level a week) until again he reaches 15 then REDUCE in the first skill e.g. flat. Swap all cyclists over to the new skill. roll through all the six main skills and in this way you will have cyclists with good base skills and be competitive in the lower divisions. Of course some will be slightly higher or lower in each skill eventually.
you could choose to specialize in flat or mountain or even TT but you will only grab odd stages and maybe not too good in GC for tours (maybe OK for short tour depends on your opposition).

[wheelnut]

I should of said when you reduce get down to about 5 as costs are exponential so low skill levels for the trainer are not too expensive.