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Post by ElGringo on Oct 1, 2013 19:41:52 GMT 1
Now with the new engine please pay attencion to the helpers
Helpers work in a hiarchical way : 1. Stick with GC rider 2. If no GC, stick with final sprinter 3. If no sprinter, stick with attacker.
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Post by stenes on Oct 1, 2013 20:31:08 GMT 1
Now with the new engine please pay attencion to the helpers Helpers work in a hiarchical way : 1. Stick with GC rider 2. If no GC, stick with final sprinter 3. If no sprinter, stick with attacker. Thank you friend A think: you wrote....3)if no sprinter, (helper) stick with attacker. based on what you understand by funraces if i attack with one of mine, (1 att + 4 HP), it's possible that 1 or more of my HP go in attack with my "rider on the run" In the past the Helpers "decelerate" the group, now it's possible that same decelerate, other go in attack, or all in attack (for example) ?
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Post by Mike on Oct 1, 2013 20:48:06 GMT 1
that is if youre HP are strong enough to follow the attacker I guess
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Post by Ab Normaal on Oct 2, 2013 10:16:45 GMT 1
No, he sticks with the attacker, if he is attacking later in the race I guess. I can't imagine that the helper attacks along. That hasn't been in the funraces.
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Post by ElGringo on Oct 2, 2013 10:55:08 GMT 1
Stenes here is your answer I see there are still 2 major things that users find confusing : 1. The way helpers act 2. Which tactic to use for a general classification rider What about combing the 2 problems into 1 solution. Now, since I like Joelag's KISS principle, I tried to keep is as simple as possible : Introducing a new tactic called "General Classification" (CG) which costs ... 0 tactic points. When you choose this tactic for a rider, all helpers will stick with this rider ! If he drops from the peloton, the helpers will drop with him and even form a group on their own if necessarry, and try to get this CG back in the peloton. (if the helpers can follow themselves offcourse) So, quite clear : CG needs to be protected as much as possible. Helpers will try to stick with this guy at any time ! What if you choose 2 or more CG riders ? Helpers will stay with the most upfront CG rider in the race. If 1 CG drops from peloton and the other is able to stay in the peloton, the helpers stay in the peloton (if they can). What happens if no CG tactic is chosen ? Helpers will stay with the most upfront "final sprinter" rider. What happens when no CG and no Final Sprinter is chosen ? Helpers will stay with the most upfront attacker. (ofcourse, when this attacker is in front of the peloton, helpers will just stay in the peloton and not relay) What happens when no CG, no FS and no attacker is chosen ? Helpers will just relay the peloton, they will not stick with any Save Fitness rider or a "no tactic" rider.
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Post by joachim1107 on Oct 2, 2013 12:29:38 GMT 1
Wow, didn't expect to lose that much time in the team time trail. I took only one TT specialist with me, so it seems everybody has taken more TT cyclists. A good place in the general seems allready lost. Will have to do it again with only the youngster yersey
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Post by Schizm on Oct 3, 2013 12:37:09 GMT 1
Wow already my third victory this week , Team Schizmano is on fire. On the downside my GC guy got injured today (and ofcourse the server error when you want to see today's results).
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Post by ElGringo on Oct 3, 2013 13:55:08 GMT 1
Wow already my third victory this week , Team Schizmano is on fire. On the downside my GC guy got injured today (and ofcourse the server error when you want to see today's results). Schizm this week you are winning to many races:P Are you prepared to go to 1.1? I made a bad tactical choise for GdI and now I'm last one, lets see if I can win some stages at least.
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Post by ElGringo on Oct 8, 2013 11:40:51 GMT 1
Schizm, impressive win yesterday by De Quint with few effort, congratz.
Will be De Quint the man who will win the giro?
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Post by Schizm on Oct 8, 2013 12:14:17 GMT 1
Schizm, impressive win yesterday by De Quint with few effort, congratz. Will be De Quint the man who will win the giro? Thanks, I think your question is already answered when you saw today's result. DQ is in the Giro to score points in the flatter stages and because he did that so well, I am now considering him as a contendor for the green jersey. But a yellow (pink actually) was never in my mind. Congratz on the win today BTW.
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Post by joachim1107 on Oct 8, 2013 12:44:16 GMT 1
Seems I'm stuck on 10th position off the league. My team is just not strong enough. My training is focussed on the future of my cyclist but thanks to that I don't score a lot of points now. My 11 sprint always loses the contact with the peloton somewhere.
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Post by gelies on Oct 8, 2013 12:59:03 GMT 1
Seems I'm stuck on 10th position off the league. My team is just not strong enough. My training is focussed on the future of my cyclist but thanks to that I don't score a lot of points now. My 11 sprint always loses the contact with the peloton somewhere. And if Montezelo keeps this going in the giro... i guess it will be hard also to keep the 10th place. 11 sprint??? in which other skill is he high?
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Post by joachim1107 on Oct 8, 2013 13:30:05 GMT 1
Flat...
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Post by gelies on Oct 8, 2013 16:40:52 GMT 1
strange... but there is a lot of hill around.. also flatters usually get behind
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Post by ElGringo on Oct 9, 2013 19:27:48 GMT 1
Schizm thanks Yes DQ lost time so only for green.
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