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Post by rarau on May 21, 2012 16:49:13 GMT 1
I have cyclists in the Vuelta with flat 1.2 till 2.6, but all with mountain 8.5+. So you'll see them in later stages Acker did well losing only 6 minutes. He and Malton are the cyclists that will go for the yellow jersey my best flat player have 7.5 or better and don't play in Spain my best mountain have only 6 mountain and don't play in Spain so i think i play good today then my 3 players from today have 7,xx flat , i don't know exactly how much is xx
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Post by Genomico on May 22, 2012 12:44:36 GMT 1
Gratz Joe
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Post by JoeLag on May 22, 2012 12:45:35 GMT 1
Chronic Cycle - the number one online cycling mag! Chronic Cycle's Christopher Velo managed to change some words with today's chrono's superior victor Gildo Veglia. Read the whole exclusive interview on www.chronic-cycle.com!Christopher Velo: Well, Gildo, first my sincere congratulations for this stunning win! When did you know that you'll be able to win this chrono? Gildo Veglia: Thank you! Yes, that was tough work! I knew that Timon Meessen and Florinel Stanga would be my main rivals. So I was glad that Timon Meessen entered the race 4 minutes before me. When I reached the last intermediate time and was 20 seconds in front of Timon Meessen I was absolutely sure that this would be my day! That was so motiviting! I even increased the speed for the last 5 km in a rush of euphoria! Christopher Velo: Yeah, you even nearly managed to catch Marwen Langlet who started 2 minutes before you! So you have a good form now. You are ranked number 5 in the general classment now. So? What can we expect from you in the coming days of this Vuelta? Gildo Veglia: Indeed! 2 km before the finish I had my first glimpse at Marwen Langlet's tross. This gave me another push! I feel great! This 5th rank in the general classment is the best placement I ever had! I will defend it! Everyone who wants to pass me has to rip this 5th rank from my cold dead body first! 5 minutes later Chronic Cycle's Christopher Velo had the chance to exchange some words with Gildo Veglia's fellow countryman Aldebrando Marra who conquered an honourable sixth rank in today's chrono.Christopher Velo: Aldebrando, congrats to you for a great performance! How do you feel? Aldebrando Marra: Bene, mille grazie! Christopher Velo: Gildo Veglia told me that he's completely confident to not lose his 5th rank in the general classment. What do you think about his chances to keep this good placement? Aldebrando Marra: Tra il dire e il fare c'è di mezzo il mare! Christopher Velo: Uhh, eeh ... yes, thank you for this assessment.
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Post by rarau on May 22, 2012 18:16:34 GMT 1
Chronic Cycle - the number one online cycling mag! today's chrono's superior victor Gildo Veglia. Christopher Velo: Well, Gildo, first my sincere congratulations for this stunning win! When did you know that you'll be able to win this chrono? Gildo Veglia: Thank you! Yes, that was tough work! I knew that Timon Meessen and Florinel Stanga would be my main rivals. So I was glad that Timon Meessen entered the race 4 minutes before me. When I reached the last intermediate time and was 20 seconds in front of Timon Meessen I was absolutely sure that this would be my day! That was so motiviting! I even increased the speed for the last 5 km in a rush of euphoria! huuuu you read the future ? nice Spain and Pologne for me, already win 139p , expected / want 100p maybe in this way i will think at place 2 1. Detilleux 14 0 04:21:31 [Time jersey] Luptatorii din Rarau 2. Dalemans 20 0 +2 [Points jersey] WC Bloedzak 3. Maia 7 0 +10 Luptatorii din Rarau 4. Beklea 9 10 +12 [Mountain jersey] Luptatorii din Rarau 5. Veglia 14 0 +1:48 Bolt Thrower 6. Meessen 11 0 +2:19 Luptatorii din Rarau nice standings for me Spain is almost finish for me , i dont't expect some other points. Hope a top 5 mountain for my mountain cyclist Most supporters ROMANIA : 4796 (Luptatorii din Rarau i think is for first and last time when i will be number 1 in this standings p.s. I know my cyclists fitness
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Post by triplef on May 26, 2012 6:53:08 GMT 1
I just found the forum for the division, somehow I never thought to look!!! I now know why I am doing so badly, I never realized this division was so strong. Omg, this is gonna be a looooonnnnnng season...
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Post by rarau on May 26, 2012 12:19:13 GMT 1
another victory for Bolt yesterday : Standings teams Nr Team Time 1. Luptatorii din Rarau 9:17:04 2. Equipe à Grande Vitesse +52 3. WC Bloedzak +56 4. Bolt Thrower +1:08 5. Petrolul Ploiesti +1:34 6. STV-stampers +1:42 7. Sport Groep Maes Koksijde +2:06 8. Team Camargue +3:04 today no changes 1. Equipe à Grande Vitesse 14:37:39 2. WC Bloedzak +1:16 3. Bolt Thrower +3:47 4. Sport Groep Maes Koksijde +4:06 5. Petrolul Ploiesti +4:58 6. Team Camargue +5:04 7. STV-stampers +5:47 8. Luptatorii din Rarau +9:12 Standings (View absolute times) Nr Cyclist Pts Mou Time Team 1. Acker 14 0 14:35:51 [Time jersey] Equipe à Grande Vitesse 2. Jeanfils 12 0 +2:30 Equipe à Grande Vitesse 3. Brinks 13 0 +2:36 WC Bloedzak 4. Acerbi 11 0 +2:55 WC Bloedzak 5. Guimarães 18 0 +2:56 Equipe à Grande Vitesse 6. Malton 19 0 +3:04 Equipe à Grande Vitesse for general standings is a genomico - bloedzak contest Standings after week 2 : 1. Equipe à Grande Vitesse 3000 603 2. WC Bloedzak 20 0 0 510 3. Petrolul Ploiesti 10 0 0 333 4. Luptatorii din Rarau 0000 189 5. Bolt Thrower 2000 173 6. Sport Groep Maes Koksijde 0000 40 7. STV-stampers 0000 6 8. Team Camargue 000 0 4 i will be the last team without a victory ?!? genomico is number 1 in Netherlands and 2 world Zuidberg 3 and 7 Petrolul 2 Romania 25 world me 8 Romania and 74 world
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Post by JoeLag on May 26, 2012 23:05:45 GMT 1
Chronic Cycle - the number one online cycling mag! Today we've seen another intense race over 167 km of difficult terrain. It wasn't scripted that an underdog would have a chance today. But here is Chronic Cycle's Christopher Velo with an exclusive interview of surprise winner Viriato Barros. Read the whole exclusive interview on www.chronic-cycle.com!Christopher Velo: Well, Viriato, first my sincere congratulations for this stunning win! When you woke up in the morning - did you think you could have a chance to win this stage? Viriato Barros: Thanks! Was I thinking I could actually win today? Not really! There are so many strong climbers in this peloton who should have been very hard to beat. But I can confide something to you: I've selected this very stage a long time before! I've been thinking: Either this stage or none of this Vuelta at all! Christopher Velo: Really? What made you think you would have a chance in spite of the strong peloton? Viriato Barros: You know that there's been a time when I was thinking I'd be a strong climber? Well, I'm the wiser now! I've matured enough to recognise that I'll never be able to reach the level of Harm Brinks, Shelton Malton or the like in the high mountains. Actually I'm realising that I have to concentrate on those races with a classic-like terrain. Indeed I was thinking that today's stage would be the easiest one of the really hard mountain stages. Another factor is that we are still in an early stage of this year's Vuelta. So I was hoping that the classment cyclists would exert some kind of reluctance to go full throttle. Christopher Velo: So what was your tactic for this race? How did you experience the race? Viriato Barros: Well, it was obvious that the first summit would be the hardest one. This very long and steep ascending slope was designed to distance all non-mountain cyclists. So my plan was to be in the first group to pass this summit at any cost! The other ascends actually hadn't been a piece of cake but I was sure that I could hang on in these ascends. And I knew that after the last summit there'd be another 20 km with only downhill and flat terrain. Well - I'm not one of the worst downhill cyclists and my plan has been that I should be the best sprinter of these who could make it into the first group. Christopher Velo: But it seemed quite easy for you on this first summit! You even won the last mountain point! Viriato Barros: Believe me! I was near dying about 2 km before the summit. The peloton was riding at an outraging speed! About 200 m before the summit I was getting slower and slower and was sure I'd stall every moment! I've stood up from my saddle and was thinking: Either you pump it up until the summit or you die here and now! Obviously I couldn't go slower on those last meters because I think I would have had to dismount if I had sit down in my saddle again! I wasn't going for the mountain points, I only took my last chance to reach the summit at all! Christopher Velo: So that was the reason that you trailed the first group during the whole downhill passage after this summit? Viriato Barros: Yes. There was nothing left in me. I had to charge my batteries again and I couldn't ride this descent as I usually would have. Christopher Velo: So you have been sure you'd win the race after you quite easily took the last summit in the first group? Viriato Barros: Oh no. I haven't been sure - I've only been quite exhausted. But I had to go for it - hadn't I? After the last summit I had to prevent any escape break. Good luck that the aces all stalked each other. So there wasn't any serious escape break in these last 20 km. Christopher Velo: Indeed you've won the sprint with a considerable distance to Oceane Jeanfils. So: Congrats again! What can we expect from you in the next stages? Viriato Barros: First I'm going to enjoy the day of rest tomorrow. And after that? Those mountains are straight from hell! I'll surely try my best. But I don't believe I'll get another chance in this tour. Christopher Velo: Viriato, thank you for this interesting insights!
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Post by Genomico on May 26, 2012 23:22:39 GMT 1
Brilliant report! And gratz
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Post by Genomico on May 29, 2012 5:48:29 GMT 1
Acker has the best time in the overall standings from all divisions. Go Florent Also Brinks (8th), Malton (12th) and Guimarães (13th) are doing very well internationally.
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Post by Quatannens on May 29, 2012 18:37:50 GMT 1
Being number one in the best division is tough. And despite that also have the most points of all teams in all division 3 is quite amazing They don't really try to stop you, already some stagewins with cyclist at 70% effort... In my division it's the same, they all just put their cyclists at 70%... Even those who don't even come close to a good GC. In 4th division this might work, but the opponents are getting better and we won't be able to keep winning a lot at 70%. I don't have a cyclist good enough to win at 70%, so I don't see an other option than going for stagewins at 100%...
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Post by Genomico on May 29, 2012 19:20:46 GMT 1
Only 2 stages are won at 70% effort. Putting a cyclists on 100% effort just to win one race in the Vuelta is a bit expensive as the cyclist then won't be on full health again until after the Tour de France. That is in 5 weeks! (Ofc can put him on 95% to try to win the stage or participate Vattenfall at 95% fitness.)
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Post by diable on May 29, 2012 20:27:24 GMT 1
Same for me here, won 2 stage wins cause i had put my cyclists on higher effort. My delighted 2-3-8 cyclist is nowhere near top positions as well. I don't know why, but he's getting outrided every stage by some guy who has a 15 mountain trainer as well, and who hardly ever bought any cyclists, makes me wonder how he has 5+ cyclists who cancel me out so easily... But yeah, have to do something to get to second division, even if my cyclists perform so weak compared to other teams. I went up peloton v1.0 from 4 till 1 in 3 seasons, so i'm used to that anyway. ^^
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Post by JoeLag on May 30, 2012 10:30:41 GMT 1
Only 2 stages are won at 70% effort. Putting a cyclists on 100% effort just to win one race in the Vuelta is a bit expensive as the cyclist then won't be on full health again until after the Tour de France. That is in 5 weeks! (Ofc can put him on 95% to try to win the stage or participate Vattenfall at 95% fitness.) Indeed it's ok to go for a Vuelta stage with 95%. Those cyclists should be at 100% for the first TdF stage. Worked 2 times for me, the third one ended only on 3rd rank - but (because he had more than 1 minute in the TT) he wouldn't have won on 100% anyway. And on the other hand: I guess most managers will put more flat cyclists into the TdF. So at least 1 or 2 mountain cyclists should be available anyway for a 100% stage during the Vuelta.
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Post by rarau on May 30, 2012 19:23:25 GMT 1
Being number one in the best division is tough. And despite that also have the most points of all teams in all division 3 is quite amazing They don't really try to stop you, already some stagewins with cyclist at 70% effort... In my division it's the same, they all just put their cyclists at 70%... Even those who don't even come close to a good GC. In 4th division this might work, but the opponents are getting better and we won't be able to keep winning a lot at 70%. I don't have a cyclist good enough to win at 70%, so I don't see an other option than going for stagewins at 100%... ya, ya ... not genomico is too good/old for us (especially for me and joelag) but we mos our cyclists every day The race of today is Madrid > Madrid. It is the 1st stage of Vuelta Ciclista a Espana. Nr Cyclist Fl Fa Time Fitness Team 1. Dalemans 0 0 3:51:41 65% WC Bloedzak 2. Beklea 0 0 +0 65% Luptatorii din Rarau 3. Detilleux 0 0 +0 65% Luptatorii din Rarau 4. Maia 0 0 +0 65% Luptatorii din Rarau 5. Feucker 0 0 +3:40 95% Bolt Thrower Today's time trial race is Rivas Futura > Rivas Vaciamadrid. The 2nd stage of Vuelta Ciclista a Espana. Nr Cyclist Fl Fa Time Fitness Team 1. Veglia 0 0 0:27:58 65% Bolt Thrower 2. Meessen 0 0 +31 60% Luptatorii din Rarau 3. Dodos 0 0 +40 90% Petrolul Ploiesti 4. Munk-Andersen 0 0 +45 60% Luptatorii din Rarau 5. Stanga 0 0 +47 90% Petrolul Ploiesti 6. Marra 0 0 +1:14 90% Bolt Thrower The race of today is Jelenia Góra > Karpacz. It is the 1st stage of Tour de Pologne. Nr Cyclist Fl Fa Time Fitness Team 1. Dellamora 0 0 3:58:26 65% Equipe à Grande Vitesse 2. Manier 0 0 +0 65% WC Bloedzak 3. Benaresi 1 0 +1:20 65% Petrolul Ploiesti 4. Duhayon 0 0 +2:29 65% Equipe à Grande Vitesse 5. Abrantes 0 0 +2:29 65% Sport Groep Maes Koksijde ONLY SOME EXAMPLES maybe other groups play cyclists at 70%, our group is extremly competitive. p.s. me, joelag and petrolul are flat teams so we cannot mos our cyclists in mountain stages
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Post by Quatannens on May 30, 2012 19:30:54 GMT 1
Sorry, but those are all really bad examples. The first two stages of the Vuelta are flat. If you know he is riding his Vuelta with all mountain cyclists you should know he won't win a flat stage. So it doesn't really matter what you do in flat races. The first race of the Tour de Pologne is also a bad example, I was talking about big tours where he can get easy wins. Of course he will put cyclists at 100% the first stage. Again: It is the only mountain stage of that tour and it is even a small tour. It would be dumb to race 7+ mountain cyclists at 70%. They can't do anything the next two stages. My point were the mountain stages in the Vuelta. If you don't give a little more effort, he'll win probably most of them without using any fitness. So he will get stagewins and good final results. I don't say YOU should do it, If you don't have the right cyclists as flattrainer you can't do anything about it. He is not even winning stages where you are trying to win. I am happy I'm not in your division, because I wouldn't win either
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