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Post by Il Padrino on Jul 11, 2012 11:03:45 GMT 1
Bugs that will be fixed tonight (sorry, can't update website sooner): - Tour results: sorting of points - Price money - Race times - Mountain sprint points Anything else? I'll try to fix the problem with the simulation taking only 2 divisions at a time. And I have an idea to make the race report a bit more faster  Division/cyclist points appear to be correct, no? |
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Post by kurtinsc on Jul 11, 2012 14:04:23 GMT 1
Less critical stuff but:
1. My trainer has an image... but also a red "X" in the same location. This appears to be the only image with this problem (though I don't have a scout).
2. Not a bug per se... but in terms of "stepping through the race", it would probably be nice to have results of the finish similar to the results of the sprints. You know... "rider X wins solo!" or "Rider Y outsprints rider X to take the victory".
3. The standings page for 3:5 has nobody with points for the mountain category. It appears to be the overall order.
4. This may not be related to a problem... but I did notice that my rider who won stage 3 of Austria seemed to break away from the pelaton without an attack. He was set to attack later in the stage, but broke away early instead.
5. No real notifications of attacks in the race result. In stage 2 of Austria my rider did break away at an attack point but the only notification in the race result was simply him being ahead in the standings at that time.
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Post by kurtinsc on Jul 11, 2012 14:11:56 GMT 1
Also... another thing that may not be an error, but I'd like to ask about.
I had a rider in 3:5 (Rose) who I had ride at 100% in stage 2. He won the stage and I expected him to struggle in the third stage. The rider who was on my team and finished 3rd on stage 2 (Yaklin) was also at 100%.
In stage 3, a tired Rose lost 1 hour and 3 minutes, despite the terrain suiting his skillset. Yaklin lost 1:30 (though he's not a mountain guy).
Is that expected... the devastating overall impact of going 100% in a stage? Win 10 minutes (which Rose did in stage 2), then lose an hour the next day?
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Post by Il Padrino on Jul 11, 2012 15:08:56 GMT 1
I found the bug that caused the problem for the race times. It seems that the fitness was used as an integer value instead of a % at one point in the calculation.  It increased the cyclists' speed * 100 in some cases, hence the F1-like results  This also caused the gaps between cyclists early on in the race and lots of other weird effects. |
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Post by Il Padrino on Jul 11, 2012 15:20:46 GMT 1
Thanks for the input, kurt. I'll see what I can do I'll fix the trainer image, it's caused by a non-existing image. Reason for this is that we had plans to update the faces in the game, but our graphics designer is M.I.A. since a couple of months now. He only did a couple of images, which is a pitty because it did look like a big improvement. Text for the winner will be improved, yes. I've reactivated the 'xxx has won the race' line in the report, but the idea is that depending on the leader group, there will be more and different texts (e.g. mass sprint, solo run & small group). Less critical stuff but: 1. My trainer has an image... but also a red "X" in the same location. This appears to be the only image with this problem (though I don't have a scout). 2. Not a bug per se... but in terms of "stepping through the race", it would probably be nice to have results of the finish similar to the results of the sprints. You know... "rider X wins solo!" or "Rider Y outsprints rider X to take the victory". 3. The standings page for 3:5 has nobody with points for the mountain category. It appears to be the overall order. 4. This may not be related to a problem... but I did notice that my rider who won stage 3 of Austria seemed to break away from the pelaton without an attack. He was set to attack later in the stage, but broke away early instead. 5. No real notifications of attacks in the race result. In stage 2 of Austria my rider did break away at an attack point but the only notification in the race result was simply him being ahead in the standings at that time. |
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Post by Il Padrino on Jul 11, 2012 15:46:16 GMT 1
4. This may not be related to a problem... but I did notice that my rider who won stage 3 of Austria seemed to break away from the pelaton without an attack. He was set to attack later in the stage, but broke away early instead. Also... another thing that may not be an error, but I'd like to ask about. I had a rider in 3:5 (Rose) who I had ride at 100% in stage 2. He won the stage and I expected him to struggle in the third stage. The rider who was on my team and finished 3rd on stage 2 (Yaklin) was also at 100%. In stage 3, a tired Rose lost 1 hour and 3 minutes, despite the terrain suiting his skillset. Yaklin lost 1:30 (though he's not a mountain guy). Is that expected... the devastating overall impact of going 100% in a stage? Win 10 minutes (which Rose did in stage 2), then lose an hour the next day? I think all of this is entirely related to the fitness bug I fixed. I expect that this will improve most of the results. As for the texts: this will be improved! Currently, many texts are disabled on purpose while we're working on improving these. I expect that this will be done in 1 or 2 weeks. |
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Post by crosljam on Jul 11, 2012 15:58:58 GMT 1
Could you quickly explain how the "Helper" role should work.
From a realism point of view helpers should drop back to help their teamates, so for example if I've got a decent sprinter who I need to get over a hill/mountain I assign 3/4 helpers to a final sprinter, whilst he might still get dropped on the climb hopefully by not as much and they might be able to help pace him back.
At the moment "helpers" just seem to perform for themselves
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Post by Il Padrino on Jul 11, 2012 18:05:28 GMT 1
Website has been updated (see announcement). Because an important bug has been fixed in the race engine, the first race (Milan - San Remo) will be simulated again tomorrow, s you don't need to set your tactics again.
The results tomorrow should be correct and the race report should show a line of the winner.
The race report should now also be a bit faster and more responsive. Please let me know if this is actually the case.
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Post by crosljam on Jul 12, 2012 11:57:24 GMT 1
As a small suggestion - is there any way to temporarily hide the race winner so you could get the excitement of watching through the race report wondering if you've won, rather than knowing the winner already?
Wouldn't want to lose the Race winner display on the calendar as its really handy, but maybe only show **** on the race day itself and then the name on the day after the race take place so if you check the same day you can watch the result pan out through the report.
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Post by Il Padrino on Jul 12, 2012 12:09:54 GMT 1
Yes, I had some ideas in a similar direction, but wanted to implement these along with the live race report. But you're right, and this isn't a difficult thing to add. I'll updated the website tonight Btw, it seems the fix to run all races instead of just a couple didn't work. I'll run the remaining races this evening, and address the issue again. Only one result is available at the moment, but the times (and grouping) appear to be better now. 8hrs for 300km is maybe a bit on the slow side, but then again, none of the cyclists have great skills yet. peloton-test.com.peloton.arvixevps.com/results2.aspx?id=1&division_id=193 |
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Post by crosljam on Jul 12, 2012 13:00:37 GMT 1
Thanks!
just had a look at result, hard to comment without knowing all the skills - apart from assuming Thiffault is impressive on the flat, but should a rider be able to breakaway, by himself for 290km?
Its not even like he got a 20min lead that was gradually clawed back too late, he was extending it the whole way.
Is there a way it can be rebalanced so the effect of being in a breakway, single or group has an effect as the race goes on and slowly reducing their skills / fitness?
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Post by newborn on Jul 12, 2012 21:50:01 GMT 1
IP, very strange
my 5 riders of Milan San Remo have 0% fitness after the race
(even with 2 helpers at 70%)
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Post by Schizm on Jul 13, 2012 8:59:33 GMT 1
IP, very strange my 5 riders of Milan San Remo have 0% fitness after the race (even with 2 helpers at 70%) +1 |
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Post by kurtinsc on Jul 13, 2012 13:45:17 GMT 1
I had a rider in 3.5 that was listed as being "left behind" multiple times during MSR... but while he moved to the back of the main group he never actually seemed to be gapped based on the in-race standings. Gascoin ended up finishing 6th in the group sprint.
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Post by jonesj on Jul 13, 2012 14:35:18 GMT 1
in division 3.4 there are still no results for the first race of the tour of austria
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