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Post by Poekie on Sept 11, 2018 14:54:26 GMT 1
What am I doing in div 1 with only $127,466 training costs?!
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Post by Genomico on Sept 14, 2018 16:52:20 GMT 1
7 in 10 from div 1. If EGV was playing he had the higgest I think. I wouldn't have had the salary of BLDN, because I would never have trained downhill.
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Post by vazilii on Sept 14, 2018 19:19:12 GMT 1
I do find those cyclist falling downhill every time rather annoying though. So maybe I might get my trainer to work on that some day just because of that haha
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Post by Slayer772004 on Sept 17, 2018 17:59:00 GMT 1
Updating rider with higger som skills= 58Flat=19,9 Hill=17,0 Mountain=18,9 Downhill=11,3 Sprint=15,7 TT=18,3Curious to see an update again
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Post by Schizm on Sept 24, 2018 9:39:34 GMT 1
AFter the update, the reference for the new season Age Age | # cyclists | Top | Avg. | 31 | 6 | 51.68 | 50.72 | 32 | 6 | 53.88 | 52.4 | 33 | 12 | 56.09 | 52.07 | 34 | 10 | 54.84 | 52.33 | 35 | 9 | 55.51 | 52.83 | 36 | 19 | 59.53 | 53.44 | 37 | 18 | 54.74 | 52.58 | 38 | 24 | 53.52 | 51.61 | Total | 104 | 59.53 | 52.33 |
P.S. : The first 30 year old for the season is already knocking on the ports of the 50+ skillers Topteams Rank | # cyclists | | Average | Avg. Age | 1 | 13 | Op kop de sloot in | 53.2 | 34.92 | 2 | 9 | De Kasseienstoempers | 52.3 | 32.89 | 3 | 8 | BeterLaatDanNooit | 54. | 35.75 | 4 | 7 | WC Bloedzak | 52.8 | 33.86 | 5 | 7 | Neo | 52.4 | 35.71 | 6 | 6 | De Droeftoeters | 52.5 | 36.67 | 7 | 4 | R.Antwerp B.C | 51.6 | 35.25 | 8 | 4 | StreetFighters | 51.5 | 37.5 | 9 | 4 | WC VroOom | 52.2 | 36. | 10 | 4 | joachim1107 | 53.1 | 36.25 | 11 | 4 | Tossboom | 50.8 | 38. |
Halfway through the season, time for an update : Age Age | # cyclists | Top | Avg. | 30 | 1 | 51.21 | 51.21 | 31 | 10 | 53.4 | 51.13 | 32 | 8 | 54.69 | 52.49 | 33 | 14 | 56.82 | 52.46 | 34 | 12 | 55.77 | 52.52 | 35 | 9 | 55.65 | 52.95 | 36 | 17 | 58.81 | 53.1 | 37 | 12 | 53.3 | 51.94 | 38 | 10 | 51.36 | 50.55 | Total | 93 | 58.81 | 52.2 |
Topteams Rank | # cyclists | | Average | Avg. Age | 1 | 11 | Op kop de sloot in | 53.2 | 33.64 | 2 | 11 | De Kasseienstoempers | 52.7 | 32.82 | 3 | 8 | BeterLaatDanNooit | 53.6 | 34.88 | 4 | 7 | WC Bloedzak | 53.4 | 33.86 | 5 | 7 | Neo | 52. | 34.71 | 6 | 6 | De Droeftoeters | 51.5 | 35.5 | 7 | 4 | WC VroOom | 51.5 | 36. | 8 | 3 | joachim1107 | 53.1 | 35.67 | 9 | 3 | R.Antwerp B.C | 51.8 | 34.67 | 10 | 3 | En Danseuse | 51.7 | 33. | 11 | 3 | Groenenhoek | 50.6 | 35.67 |
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Post by Schizm on Sept 24, 2018 9:48:51 GMT 1
And the new age table Skill/age Rank | # cyclists | Top Skill | Average | Avg. Top20 | | 18 | 30 | 13.46 | 12.30 | 12.45 | | 19 | 422 | 17.93 | 14.02 | 16.95 | | 20 | 536 | 21.53 | 15.42 | 20.35 | | 21 | 490 | 24.38 | 17.18 | 23.06 | | 22 | 464 | 29.40 | 18.20 | 26.50 | | 23 | 418 | 32.05 | 20.05 | 29.76 | | 24 | 374 | 35.97 | 20.54 | 32.92 | | 25 | 278 | 37.77 | 21.91 | 35.55 | | 26 | 166 | 42.09 | 27.76 | 38.21 | | 27 | 157 | 44.70 | 30.94 | 40.34 | | 28 | 107 | 44.93 | 34.23 | 42.45 | | 29 | 112 | 47.69 | 37.65 | 44.61 | | 30 | 79 | 49.92 | 39.06 | 46.07 | | 31 | 71 | 51.68 | 41.03 | 48.78 | | 32 | 76 | 53.88 | 42.42 | 49.55 | | 33 | 88 | 56.09 | 42.91 | 50.64 | | 34 | 49 | 54.84 | 44.39 | 50.59 | | 35 | 51 | 55.51 | 44.86 | 50.75 | | 36 | 58 | 59.53 | 46.24 | 53.23 | | 37 | 73 | 54.74 | 44.81 | 52.26 | | 38 | 221 | 53.52 | 44.00 | 51.98 | | 39 | 97 | 46.70 | 37.79 | 43.88 | | 40 | 18 | 35.91 | 29.63 | 29.63 | |
Skill/age Rank | # cyclists | Top Skill | Average | Avg. Top20 | Evo # cyc | Evo Top | Evo. Avg. | 18 | 189 | 15.36 | 13.15 | 14.78 | 159 | 1.90 | 0.85 | 19 | 476 | 19.89 | 14.85 | 18.70 | 54 | 1.95 | 0.83 | 20 | 480 | 23.55 | 16.63 | 22.14 | -56 | 2.02 | 1.21 | 21 | 458 | 26.33 | 18.27 | 24.65 | -32 | 1.95 | 1.10 | 22 | 412 | 31.37 | 19.41 | 27.92 | -52 | 1.97 | 1.21 | 23 | 370 | 33.51 | 21.41 | 31.19 | -48 | 1.46 | 1.36 | 24 | 318 | 37.47 | 22.38 | 34.29 | -56 | 1.51 | 1.84 | 25 | 199 | 38.96 | 26.17 | 36.88 | -79 | 1.19 | 4.26 | 26 | 151 | 43.62 | 29.93 | 39.44 | -15 | 1.54 | 2.16 | 27 | 146 | 45.78 | 32.44 | 41.37 | -11 | 1.08 | 1.50 | 28 | 99 | 46.09 | 35.43 | 43.25 | -8 | 1.16 | 1.21 | 29 | 110 | 49.22 | 38.52 | 45.58 | -2 | 1.53 | 0.87 | 30 | 75 | 51.21 | 40.19 | 46.92 | -4 | 1.29 | 1.13 | 31 | 70 | 53.40 | 42.01 | 49.61 | -1 | 1.72 | 0.97 | 32 | 76 | 54.69 | 43.01 | 50.31 | 0 | 0.81 | 0.58 | 33 | 86 | 56.82 | 43.41 | 51.36 | -2 | 0.73 | 0.50 | 34 | 47 | 55.77 | 45.28 | 51.18 | -2 | 0.93 | 0.89 | 35 | 50 | 55.65 | 44.93 | 50.82 | -1 | 0.14 | 0.06 | 36 | 57 | 58.81 | 45.59 | 52.52 | -1 | -0.72 | -0.65 | 37 | 71 | 53.30 | 43.37 | 50.82 | -2 | -1.44 | -1.44 | 38 | 212 | 51.36 | 41.79 | 49.87 | -9 | -2.16 | -2.21 | 39 | 94 | 44.30 | 34.90 | 40.86 | -3 | -2.40 | -2.89 | 40 | 17 | 31.94 | 26.62 | 26.62 | -1 | -3.98 | -3.01 |
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Post by Schizm on Sept 24, 2018 9:55:08 GMT 1
Current situation of the teams with the most topskill cyclists of their age : Rank | | Top 20 | Top 10 | Top 5 | Top | 1 | Op kop de sloot in | 30 | 21 | 15 | 3 | 2 | BeterLaatDanNooit | 24 | 19 | 17 | 7 | 3 | De Droeftoeters | 24 | 18 | 12 | 3 | 4 | De Kasseienstoempers | 20 | 16 | 11 | 3 | 5 | Team Franconia | 19 | 11 | 6 | 1 | 6 | Team Slayer | 19 | 13 | 5 | 1 | 7 | Naspa Achne 26 | 17 | 8 | 5 | 0 | 8 | En Danseuse | 16 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 9 | WC VroOom | 15 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 10 | Neo | 14 | 9 | 3 | 1 | 11 | Melres United | 13 | 11 | 4 | 1 | 12 | Thors Thunder | 11 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 13 | ALESANA | 11 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 14 | WC Bloedzak | 9 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 15 | SeMTeX | 8 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 16 | Tossboom | 8 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 17 | CSC Cycling | 8 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 18 | The Mothers of Invention | 8 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 19 | By The Way | 7 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 20 | team dustin | 6 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 21 | Antares | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Current situation of the teams with the most topskill cyclists of their age : Rank | | Top 20 | Top 10 | Top 5 | Top | 1 | Op kop de sloot in | 27 | 20 | 15 | 5 | 2 | BeterLaatDanNooit | 25 | 21 | 17 | 8 | 3 | De Droeftoeters | 23 | 18 | 12 | 3 | 4 | De Kasseienstoempers | 20 | 17 | 12 | 2 | 5 | Team Franconia | 19 | 12 | 6 | 1 | 6 | Team Slayer | 19 | 13 | 5 | 1 | 7 | Neo | 16 | 10 | 2 | 1 | 8 | Naspa Achne 26 | 16 | 8 | 5 | 0 | 9 | En Danseuse | 16 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 10 | Melres United | 15 | 9 | 3 | 0 | 11 | WC VroOom | 15 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 12 | Thors Thunder | 14 | 9 | 4 | 0 | 13 | Tossboom | 11 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 14 | ALESANA | 9 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 15 | WC Bloedzak | 8 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 16 | SeMTeX | 8 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 17 | CSC Cycling | 8 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 18 | The Mothers of Invention | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 19 | By The Way | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 20 | SpartaB | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 21 | Antares | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
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Post by Schizm on Sept 24, 2018 10:08:26 GMT 1
Updating rider with higger som skills= 58Flat=19,9 Hill=17,0 Mountain=18,9 Downhill=11,3 Sprint=15,7 TT=18,3Curious to see an update again Only cyclists in active teams (between brackets the # of cyclists with 15 or higher) Flat=18.6 (13) Hill=15.0 (0) Mountain=19.1 (27) Downhill=12.9 (0) Sprint=15.5 (3) TT=17.7 (15)
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Post by Schizm on Sept 25, 2018 14:22:08 GMT 1
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Post by heppie on Sept 25, 2018 15:05:20 GMT 1
Nice idea to capture this in a ranking. If I understand correctly, you ranked the cyclist according to the maximum terrain skill and then assigned scores to the ranks (place 1 the most and place 100 the least)?
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Post by ElGringo on Sept 25, 2018 21:03:38 GMT 1
Current situation of the teams with the most topskill cyclists of their age : Rank | | Top 20 | Top 10 | Top 5 | Top | 1 | Op kop de sloot in | 27 | 20 | 15 | 5 | 2 | BeterLaatDanNooit | 25 | 21 | 17 | 8 | 3 | De Droeftoeters | 23 | 18 | 12 | 3 | 4 | De Kasseienstoempers | 20 | 17 | 12 | 2 | 5 | Team Franconia | 19 | 12 | 6 | 1 | 6 | Team Slayer | 19 | 13 | 5 | 1 | 7 | Neo | 16 | 10 | 2 | 1 | 8 | Naspa Achne 26 | 16 | 8 | 5 | 0 | 9 | En Danseuse | 16 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 10 | Melres United | 15 | 9 | 3 | 0 | 11 | WC VroOom | 15 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 12 | Thors Thunder | 14 | 9 | 4 | 0 | 13 | Tossboom | 11 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 14 | ALESANA | 9 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 15 | WC Bloedzak | 8 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 16 | SeMTeX | 8 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 17 | CSC Cycling | 8 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 18 | The Mothers of Invention | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 19 | By The Way | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 20 | SpartaB | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 21 | Antares | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Damm I lost my best rider in one age probably because if the differente of training with 18 agains 19 from other manager. Frank in the older post you have in number 1, 20 top riders, this one has 21 top riders, did you include another age?
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Post by Schizm on Sept 25, 2018 21:32:25 GMT 1
... Frank in the older post you have in number 1, 20 top riders, this one has 21 top riders, did you include another age? In fact there are 22 age categories (since I do not count 40 because it doesn't have enough cyclists to have a top 20), it just means the other top cyclists drive for teams with less then 6 top 20 cyclists. Nice idea to capture this in a ranking. If I understand correctly, you ranked the cyclist according to the maximum terrain skill and then assigned scores to the ranks (place 1 the most and place 100 the least)? I am reworking the specialists scoring method as we speak, so I come back to that later.
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Post by Schizm on Sept 26, 2018 10:00:56 GMT 1
A new attempt to rate the specialists (changed the score calculation because it was based on formulas of the old engine) -> for the figures below I made a top 100 and looked which teams where best represtented (3 cyclists or more) Rank | | # in top 100 | Avg Score | Avg Mood | Corrected | 1 | De Kasseienstoempers | 11 | 34.58 | 79 | 35.58 | 2 | De Droeftoeters | 10 | 33.30 | 96 | 35.37 | 3 | WC Bloedzak | 7 | 34.53 | 79 | 35.49 | 4 | Neo | 6 | 32.99 | 69 | 33.26 | 5 | KS Crusaders | 5 | 33.82 | 77 | 34.66 | 6 | BeterLaatDanNooit | 5 | 33.67 | 100 | 36.03 | 7 | StreetFighters | 5 | 32.13 | 69 | 32.38 | 8 | WC VroOom | 4 | 33.42 | 70 | 33.81 | 9 | Op kop de sloot in | 4 | 33.22 | 100 | 35.51 | 10 | The Mothers of Invention | 3 | 33.48 | 82 | 34.62 | 11 | Thors Thunder | 3 | 33.03 | 68 | 33.22 |
No more dominance for Droeftoeters in this ranking, Kasseienstoempers has taken over, still some work on the mood department for him though. Droeftoeters in second ahead of somewhat surprising names (like WC Bloedzak, Neo, KS Crusaders). P.S. : Scores in the top 100 vary from 36.04 for number 1 down to 31.67 for number 100. edit : in answer to Heppie, what I did is take the 4 main skills (flat, hill, mountain, downhill) and recalculated them taking into account all the factors that influence the skill during the race but are not race related (experience, weight, length, ... all influence the scoring but not leadership, teammates, equipment, fitness, effort, form). The highest of those was added to the average of the other 3 plus the effect of TT and Sprint during attacks. I decided to take mood out of the equation and only add it in the end so I could gat a seperate score for it. The resulting top 100 of specialist cyclists then lead to the table above summarizing the results of the "specialist in specialists" teams ... edit 2 : no harm in giving the names of the cyclists in the top 100, I guess. Rank last_name age 001 Pratte 34 002 Timm 32 003 Labadie 35 004 Chaumet 35 005 Malton 38 006 Schuckmann 34 007 Guth 38 008 Rios 35 009 Velardi 36 010 Clementino 37 011 Sloodts 33 012 Cavaco 33 013 Paparelli 36 014 Finet 34 015 Caiado 34 016 Emond 36 017 Puerari 36 018 Chisca 37 019 Lasat 36 020 Brognoli 32 021 Coucke 37 022 Brembilla 33 023 Brinks 38 024 Gommers 34 025 Verstraeten 31 026 Belluzzo 33 027 Granatiero 35 028 Imperial 38 029 Froment 33 030 Figueiredo 36 031 Mihnea 31 032 Stroh 36 033 Margolfo 35 034 De Gryse 32 035 Pavel 36 036 Bredael 33 037 Tavares 32 038 Guiggi 38 039 Schuller 31 040 Malabaila 37 041 Guignard 35 042 Saloio 30 043 Cwiakala 31 044 Raps 36 045 Rohart 36 046 Miranda 32 047 Dodos 37 048 Bertol 38 049 Grimaudo 34 050 Sikkes 37 051 Freitas 35 052 Giraudo 33 053 Feron 38 054 Osmochescu 36 055 Cornelio 36 056 Köster 32 057 Dobra 35 058 Glassee 38 059 Gommeren 38 060 Spielman 38 061 Picard 35 062 Vandekerckhove 36 063 Dirven 36 064 Block 32 065 Becerro 38 066 Raab 32 067 Loest 37 068 Serwy 34 069 Stonier 34 070 Delacour 33 071 Bazzani 37 072 Hingant 37 073 Garcia Del Rio 38 074 Pequeno 38 075 Genon 31 076 Goga 34 077 Hanicq 31 078 Chague 38 079 De Waen 34 080 Lorens 38 081 Bossuroy 32 082 Fazio 37 083 Thort 36 084 Rousse 36 085 de Anda 37 086 Feerick 29 087 Renquin 34 088 Ansart 36 089 Guillemant 38 090 Grazziotin 39 091 Welsch 38 092 van Gunst 34 093 Gerault 36 094 Lange 34 095 Vernest 35 096 Pezin 33 097 Stellian 38 098 Galante 31 099 Ponsteen 38 100 Prevost 37
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Post by heppie on Sept 26, 2018 13:18:41 GMT 1
edit : in answer to Heppie, what I did is take the 4 main skills (flat, hill, mountain, downhill) and recalculated them taking into account all the factors that influence the skill during the race but are not race related (experience, weight, length, ... all influence the scoring but not leadership, teammates, equipment, fitness, effort, form). The highest of those was added to the average of the other 3 plus the effect of TT and Sprint during attacks. I decided to take mood out of the equation and only add it in the end so I could gat a seperate score for it. The resulting top 100 of specialist cyclists then lead to the table above summarizing the results of the "specialist in specialists" teams ...
Thanks for the explanation. Seems a good way to rank specialist to me, although one might discuss about adding the mean score of the three lowest terrain skills for a real specialist.
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Post by rarau on Sept 27, 2018 11:57:00 GMT 1
finally i see my cyclists on some top 016 Emond 36 ( i know last season when i considered him best ITT in 2.1) 044 Raps 36 expected 049 Grimaudo 34 my ex cyclist 085 de Anda 37 my ex cyclist yesterday it seemed to me that I also saw Boumraya but I probably confused him with Grimaudo. I expected to see also Moldovan , my ex cyclist, but probably he retire ? ? and also my mountain star Zeff but probably he lowered his mountain last week(s) don't reach top 100 is normal to see WC Bloedzak he have probably the most mountain stars. In this game i know 2 users who train a single skill mountain stars WC Bloedzak flat stars Evcont (negru) some cyclist are a bit lower , i thinked was better stars like Renquin, Guillemant, Grazziotin, Garcia Del Rio etc are some youngsters so high at 31-32 y I expected Timm to be high, a big star, but not so high Malton and Guth even are soo old are so high. Schizm could you make this for U27 too?
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