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Post by droopy on Dec 31, 2008 13:04:50 GMT 1
If I remember correctly experience increases by participating races and it increases even (a lot?) more when the cyclist gets good results. Correct me if I'm wrong. In the beginning CA or FA also had something to do with, or was that in leadership?
When I compare the experience of my cyclists to others in lower divisions, I see my cyclists aren't that experienced. That's my impression.
I've been playing for a long time, participated in every race. Now the fourth season in div1:1. The competition is difficult, shouldn't you get more experience when you drive at the top level?
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Post by zimba on Dec 31, 2008 13:51:44 GMT 1
I share your thoughts here.
Cyclists should get more experience on higher levels. And results shouldn't affect experience at all.
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Post by droopy on Dec 31, 2008 14:04:32 GMT 1
After all: you learn more from your mistakes
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Post by chakra on Jan 2, 2009 11:03:35 GMT 1
I must say I disagree. Racers with low level skills can be more and very experienced in a lower division than in a higher Div. It all depends of the CA and the FA of the racer. A 20 year young racer can have low skills but high experience because he competed every race possible and has a low FA. A 20 year other racer can have high skills (high FA) and did not compete any race. He just remained training!
Isn't it all in the spirit of the game. Knowing your racers capacity and manage them in the best way you can?
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Post by droopy on Jan 2, 2009 14:18:21 GMT 1
At the top level, you learn a lot more. Often it's a matter of details to win a race.
At lower levels, you don't have to be that smart to win. If you make a mistake, you can easily correct this if your legs are allowing you to do so. Ask the prof. cyclists. In the youth categories it wasn't that hard to win. You'll still be able to get experience from those races, especially when you ride a lot.
I'm just saying you get more experience in a race at top level. But if you don't participate at all, you won't gain experience (That's what you're saying?) Of course it will be still be possible to be more experienced in lower divisions.
But it isn't very realistic to see cyclists who are winning at the top level, who have participated races everytime it was possible, are less experienced.
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Post by chakra on Jan 2, 2009 14:59:21 GMT 1
That, dear Droopy, is true. Participating (and winning) all races and low experience is a bit dubious.(?) And details at the lower Div are not so important, that is true too. I'm not busy with skills as 7,2 or 6,8 for me it is 7 or 6. I'm just waiting till they pop. And yes, I'm learning (quickly ?).
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Post by geengebruikersnaam on Jan 2, 2009 16:13:46 GMT 1
I agree with droopy, I'd like more something like this:
In 4th division: * Participate = +0,01
* Tour stages / green jersey / mountain jersey: 10th = +0,01 9th = +0,02 ... 1st = +0,1
* Single race / yellow jersey: 10th = +0,02 9th = +0,04 ... 1st = +0,2
In 3th division: the same as in 4th division but x2
In 2nd division: the same as in 4th division but x3
In 1st division: the same as in 4th division but x4
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Post by droopy on Jan 2, 2009 16:33:28 GMT 1
What's the system at this moment?
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Post by NikeBoy on Jan 2, 2009 17:04:49 GMT 1
The current system depends on the raceposition (or actually on the formpoints received) So the higher the formpoints, the more experience you get.
But the question is : what do you want to do with this experience. How should it affect a cyclist and his preformance ?!
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Post by droopy on Jan 2, 2009 17:28:57 GMT 1
Now you get a small extra% on every skill. That's quite good in my opinion. How experience is translated in real life is hard to explain. It's something like CA, that represents a lot of skills that aren't taken into account in other skills. Tactics, knowing 'de truken van de foor',... Since CA isn't trainable, experience (and leadership) could be (or should be) a nice compensation.
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Post by droopy on Jan 2, 2009 17:34:38 GMT 1
Your race position (or form points)can give you a little extra experience. But participating should give at least more than 50% of the possible experience points to wine in one race. Or maybe make it like the training curve. If your experience is low you will gain a lot by just participating. From experience 10(?) you will gain less and you will have to end in the top 10 (race for victory) to gain the same experience as you did before.
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Post by droopy on Jan 6, 2009 14:13:39 GMT 1
Other people who agree, others who don't? IP? Nikeboy?
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Post by Quatannens on Jan 6, 2009 15:36:56 GMT 1
I agree! It's just unfair cyclists in lower divisions gain a lot more xp than the cyclists in higher divisions, it's like you would gain more xp by racing a lot of regional races than winning a Tour de France...
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Post by zimba on Jan 19, 2009 13:14:59 GMT 1
And why even not award additional experience for your rider placed at 1st spot. ? Not the team leader, but the 'kopman' (sorry, don't know the word in English) of the team.
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Post by jmc7 on Mar 10, 2009 19:41:36 GMT 1
i don' t agree
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