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Post by captagon on Jun 26, 2007 22:47:25 GMT 1
i believe this is already the case. Don't know where i read it, but i believe i did somewhere.
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Post by stefkeswoon on Jul 6, 2007 11:07:19 GMT 1
If you click on the standings of a tour, they will always give you the final standings. But very often I'm interested in the standings after, for example, 5 races. It would be very very cool if the standings after race 5 appear when you click on 'standings' next to race 5.
Is that possible?
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Post by Il Padrino on Jul 6, 2007 12:58:54 GMT 1
Not planning on changing this as it would require a lot of additional resources.
Currently, there's plenty of space of course, but as the game grows this would just become problematic in the future to store it all on a single server. Maybe in the (far) future this can change, but for now, the tour standings will always show the latest standings.
We'll see how things work out with the race results. If it turns out that the way these are stored at the moment (single files per division) is good, I could do it. But I'm going to wait at least 3 or 4 seasons to decide.
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Post by stefkeswoon on Jul 6, 2007 13:12:25 GMT 1
Okidoki. Tanx for the clear answer!
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Post by Quatannens on Jul 16, 2007 18:36:05 GMT 1
Maybe I have a solution (or at least it's better for the game) for the green and mountain jersey. The idea is that the cyclists selected for green and mountain jersey ride the first part of the race at a higher effort and the last part at a lower effort. So the selected cyclist will arrive as first at the sprintpoints, but at the end of the race they will lose a lot of time. At the end of a race the mountain and sprintpoints can be won by cyclists who are not selected.
An other change could be to add more sprints in flat races and less mountain points, also more mountainpoints in the mountain-races and less sprintpoints, only at the begin of a race if it is flat. (This is only for the big tours)
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Post by NikeBoy on Jul 16, 2007 18:51:53 GMT 1
The first part I don't like. The last part will be implemented sooner as you think  |
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Post by Quatannens on Jul 16, 2007 19:15:50 GMT 1
Ok, that's very good |
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Post by stefkeswoon on Jul 18, 2007 17:20:48 GMT 1
A small suggestion concerning the order of races in small tours.
Fact 1: There are 10 small tours in the Peloton Calendar and all of them start with a mainly flat race and end with a mountain race.
Fact 2: In order to win such a tour, cyclists often race at more than 70% in the last race. Racing at full effort in the first race gives you a disadvantage in the next races due to fitness loss.
If you combine those two facts, it's easy to see that cyclists with a good mountain skill have an advantage, because they race at full effort on their best skill, while flat cyclists are forced to do so on their worse skill.
My suggestion: swap some races in the small tours, so that every now and then the last race focusses on flat or hill.
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Post by Lennie_Briscoe on Jul 18, 2007 17:40:12 GMT 1
but giving all in the first stage of a three days tour must always be bad...being it flat or hill or whatever...that's why most people raise the effort only in last stage
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Post by thoom on Jul 18, 2007 19:07:17 GMT 1
I would like to see a little shortlist for riders in who your interested on the transfermarket. Because now I have to search for the riders every time. And when I have a little shortlist I can't lose them or buy the wrong one or something.
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Post by stefkeswoon on Jul 18, 2007 19:14:54 GMT 1
That's something for premium-members already. So maybe consider becoming premiummember yourself?
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Post by thoom on Jul 18, 2007 19:34:33 GMT 1
The free premium I got just expired so I probably missed it. And I'm going on holiday in a few weeks so I don't wan't and can't take a new one yet. But when I'm back (and have enough money) I will take one for sure. At least this is one reason more tot take one.
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Post by CableGuy on Jul 19, 2007 9:14:11 GMT 1
A small suggestion concerning the order of races in small tours. Fact 1: There are 10 small tours in the Peloton Calendar and all of them start with a mainly flat race and end with a mountain race. Fact 2: In order to win such a tour, cyclists often race at more than 70% in the last race. Racing at full effort in the first race gives you a disadvantage in the next races due to fitness loss. If you combine those two facts, it's easy to see that cyclists with a good mountain skill have an advantage, because they race at full effort on their best skill, while flat cyclists are forced to do so on their worse skill. My suggestion: swap some races in the small tours, so that every now and then the last race focusses on flat or hill. Well, I understand your reasoning a bit. But it is not completely so easy to tell if this really is an advantage or not. Some things that might also have an influence: - 8 out of 10 tours have a fitness update in between (this season), whereby 3 tours have this update after the first stage already. Depending on the intention to train fitness or not, managers can make a decision to go for 85% or 100% in those 'typical' flat races. - Tirreno-Adriatico's last race is als very flat (and after an update). - Volta a Catalunya's first race has only 9kms of flat - Not all managers race the last stage of a tour at 100% effort. Still many managers only go to 85% or 80% (if the last 2 races of a tour are in the same week) or 75% (if tour is within same week), so the effect is maybe not that spectacular. - Next season (if the same day-shift is done as this season), there will be another distribution of the updates in between tour stages. The season after that ... again another one. - Almost all single races have already much stress on the 'flat' skill ... let most of the tours have some more stress on the 'mountain' skill. And looking at the hill skill, that situation is even worse than for flat. - Paris-Nice has 179km of flat in first stage, compare that with the 47km of mountain in the last stage, then even multiplying by 2 and a factor for the speed already shows that still a larger time gap can be created in the first than in the last stage for monoskilled cyclists. Similar conclusion is applicable for Deutschland Tour, Enoco Tour, tour de Pologne. Just to say that it is hard to proove that there is an unfair unbalance between skills in races. I think it als should not be that straightforward. If all skills were equally used, the manager's decision about training wouldn't mind at all, since they would all have equal chances of winning points and money with races. Now there is a much more difficult managerial choice to be made: train skills which are more rewarded in races, but with lots more trainers who apply them, so more similar players on the market, or go for the more rare training skills and hope that your cyclists can form the basis for future multiskills, much wanted by flat or mountain trainers, which probably could result in rewarding you with more money via the transfer market system. |
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Post by stefkeswoon on Jul 19, 2007 10:42:23 GMT 1
Fine answer. I recognize it's a very small (dis)advantage, that's why I putted in the 'Small suggestions'-topic  . Though there is probably still a small advantage for mountaineers in small tours, I reckon why it won't be changed. |
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Post by captagon on Jul 19, 2007 23:30:36 GMT 1
mountain trainers have a small advantage in many small tours, flat trainers have a small advantage in most single-day-races. Make your pick.
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