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Post by evild on Aug 22, 2019 12:48:20 GMT 1
well, looking at the race schedule, I would say it is going to be a battle between Strauss and Rios for the Giro GC. Skill against fitness, 3 updates for Gik. I am curious to see if it will be enough to keep Strauss behind.
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Post by bosko on Aug 22, 2019 13:12:19 GMT 1
well, looking at the race schedule, I would say it is going to be a battle between Strauss and Rios for the Giro GC. Skill against fitness, 3 updates for Gik. I am curious to see if it will be enough to keep Strauss behind. Strauss should first of all go for Liège. But he might be that confident, he only goes for 85%. But even than, I would never go for GC with Strauss. Too much mountain in my opinion. And indeed: 3 weeks Giro = 2 updates inbetween = 30% extra fitness for Rios. That's a lot and will be hard to beat. Today a nice race without the real big guns. Beule (ALESANA) grabbed this opportunity with both hands and took the victory before the slightly older Wattez (Headcase Pro Cycling) and Craddon (WC VroOom). Damn! I always try to look up at the division standings, but the gap with ALESANA is now becoming huge...
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Post by headcase on Aug 22, 2019 17:03:17 GMT 1
I was hoping Wattez would take this. Congrats to chakra
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Post by chakra on Aug 22, 2019 22:05:53 GMT 1
Beule had a flat halfway the race and had to close a gap of around 40 seconds, there I thought the race was over. Fortunately his form was excellent and Beule never last the faith in winning the stage apparantly. Staring at the last climb with a handfull seconds in front, he forgot Wattez was coming back. It was a very close call at the finish. A photofinish was necessary. Less than half an inch the difference. Nice course Headcase. @spartab: 1 stage win, 1 jersey and the gap will be gone. Melting as snow in the sun.
"a battle between Strauss and Rios for the Giro GC. Skill against fitness, 3 updates" Skill against injury? Isn't the risk getting injured during a fitness training increased?
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Post by bosko on Aug 23, 2019 6:19:25 GMT 1
Beule had a flat halfway the race and had to close a gap of around 40 seconds, there I thought the race was over. Fortunately his form was excellent and Beule never last the faith in winning the stage apparantly. Staring at the last climb with a handfull seconds in front, he forgot Wattez was coming back. It was a very close call at the finish. A photofinish was necessary. Less than half an inch the difference. Nice course Headcase. @spartab: 1 stage win, 1 jersey and the gap will be gone. Melting as snow in the sun. "a battle between Strauss and Rios for the Giro GC. Skill against fitness, 3 updates"Skill against injury? Isn't the risk getting injured during a fitness training increased? He has trained on fitness a lot (almost every week since transfer?). And not a single injury on his list... When training fitness, the injury proneness is multiplied with a factor. But if the cyclists injury proneness is very low, it becomes a very little less low, but still low enough to probably not getting injured.
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Post by bosko on Aug 23, 2019 11:56:28 GMT 1
@spartab: 1 stage win, 1 jersey and the gap will be gone. Melting as snow in the sun. I'll try... Quintal will go for the stage today. Rijssegem (WC VroOom) probably has the same plan. Steenmans (Arsenal '98) is also rather fresh (90%), but I don't know his plans.
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Post by chakra on Aug 23, 2019 12:06:10 GMT 1
But Quiller killed it. Congratz! First stage win and hopefully many to come.
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Post by angelogik on Aug 23, 2019 13:33:57 GMT 1
… "a battle between Strauss and Rios for the Giro GC. Skill against fitness, 3 updates"Skill against injury? Isn't the risk getting injured during a fitness training increased? training the fitness skill is an option open to everyone, instead of complaining, which has already encouraged the programmers to insert the stupid additional variables you indicated (increase in incidents and greater deduction in skills even before the age of 35), upgrade your coach, paying even a lot more on a weekly and use fitness when needed, stop complaining just for your interest ... ah I hope your best cyclist gets injured during training or maybe in race for a broken finger in a bad curve
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Post by quiller on Aug 23, 2019 15:54:06 GMT 1
SI SI SI SI SI He did it ... Second place overall is also very good… Very happy manager over here
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Post by bosko on Aug 23, 2019 20:38:00 GMT 1
… "a battle between Strauss and Rios for the Giro GC. Skill against fitness, 3 updates"Skill against injury? Isn't the risk getting injured during a fitness training increased? training the fitness skill is an option open to everyone, instead of complaining, which has already encouraged the programmers to insert the stupid additional variables you indicated (increase in incidents and greater deduction in skills even before the age of 35), upgrade your coach, paying even a lot more on a weekly and use fitness when needed, stop complaining just for your interest ... ah I hope your best cyclist gets injured during training or maybe in race for a broken finger in a bad curve There's no need to feel offended at all. I don't see anyone complaining. The question was: who will win the Giro. Than we come to the conclusion that it will be very hard to beat Rios because 1) he's excellent (it's like he wins what he wants to win) 2) he has 2 fitness updates = 2 x 15% extra That's not complaining, that are simple facts. chakra only says it might be a risk to train fitness during a tour, I only answer I don't think it's that big risk because I think Rios hardly gets injured. No one wants someone to get injured (untill your last sentence that is). It's a pity you say now people are complaining while there are also posts like: Rios is doing great this season. 8 results so far and 7 of them are wins (including jerseys). Rios surprises me a bit indeed. He still also wins the races he starts. I'm also somewhat impressed by Rios. At his 38y, he is in his best shape ever it seems. Too bad you didn't react on those messages. You call the additional factors "stupid". Than you say people complain for their own interest. That's indeed a good example. I know it's a game and as you say, everybody is free to use it and it certainly has a big financial downside. But for many players, it feels a bit like in the real world, doping would be allowed as long as you pay enough for it. That would be a bit weird. Because there was a lot of noice against it, but to not effect the fitnessusers too much, the owners made some minor changes. I would say that's a rather fair solution. Summarized: this thread is used by people who want to talk a bit about the game, to give the game something extra. This all without any negative motive. As apparently, you know your way to the forum, you're very welcome to talk about your cyclists too. We would be happy to hear about your plans, goals, predictions etc...
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Post by bosko on Aug 23, 2019 20:39:01 GMT 1
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Post by angelogik on Aug 24, 2019 1:05:22 GMT 1
training the fitness skill is an option open to everyone, instead of complaining, which has already encouraged the programmers to insert the stupid additional variables you indicated (increase in incidents and greater deduction in skills even before the age of 35), upgrade your coach, paying even a lot more on a weekly and use fitness when needed, stop complaining just for your interest ... ah I hope your best cyclist gets injured during training or maybe in race for a broken finger in a bad curve There's no need to feel offended at all. I don't see anyone complaining. The question was: who will win the Giro. Than we come to the conclusion that it will be very hard to beat Rios because 1) he's excellent (it's like he wins what he wants to win) 2) he has 2 fitness updates = 2 x 15% extra That's not complaining, that are simple facts. chakra only says it might be a risk to train fitness during a tour, I only answer I don't think it's that big risk because I think Rios hardly gets injured. No one wants someone to get injured (untill your last sentence that is). It's a pity you say now people are complaining while there are also posts like: Rios is doing great this season. 8 results so far and 7 of them are wins (including jerseys). Rios surprises me a bit indeed. He still also wins the races he starts. I'm also somewhat impressed by Rios. At his 38y, he is in his best shape ever it seems. Too bad you didn't react on those messages. You call the additional factors "stupid". Than you say people complain for their own interest. That's indeed a good example. I know it's a game and as you say, everybody is free to use it and it certainly has a big financial downside. But for many players, it feels a bit like in the real world, doping would be allowed as long as you pay enough for it. That would be a bit weird. Because there was a lot of noice against it, but to not effect the fitnessusers too much, the owners made some minor changes. I would say that's a rather fair solution. Summarized: this thread is used by people who want to talk a bit about the game, to give the game something extra. This all without any negative motive. As apparently, you know your way to the forum, you're very welcome to talk about your cyclists too. We would be happy to hear about your plans, goals, predictions etc... already several times I was wished the accident to RIOS (and some time ago for my older rider LAMEGO), if it happens it's okay, I was unlucky, but wishing the event to me several times annoys me, ok?
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Post by quiller on Aug 24, 2019 9:55:26 GMT 1
Today LBL... Renuart was in the planning (as reserve lead) for the Giro, but he begged me to let him ride LBL with ambition… We gave him what he wanted and decided to strenghten the giro team with TT...
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Post by chakra on Aug 24, 2019 12:33:16 GMT 1
… "a battle between Strauss and Rios for the Giro GC. Skill against fitness, 3 updates"Skill against injury? Isn't the risk getting injured during a fitness training increased? training the fitness skill is an option open to everyone, instead of complaining, which has already encouraged the programmers to insert the stupid additional variables you indicated (increase in incidents and greater deduction in skills even before the age of 35), upgrade your coach, paying even a lot more on a weekly and use fitness when needed, stop complaining just for your interest ... ah I hope your best cyclist gets injured during training or maybe in race for a broken finger in a bad curve Such a negativisme. Oeeehhhh. I wasn't complaining. But if I can put a smile on your face: I've got 2 injured cyclist one with a broken finger. Luckily that if my best cyclist gets injured, I still got my second best... And he is 100% fit or another race... And about RIOS or STRAUSS, I would and will NEVER wish a cyclist being injured. Not even after your "deepest" wish to my best cyclist. . And managers who do should be punished. Put on their bare knees and get whipped with a flat tire. I used fitness last season too (once) and the result was, this cyclist was only once injured before (during training fitness), he got injured for 2 weeks again and lost his green jersey. That sucked. But it is the game. That is the risk a manager takes. My opinion of training fitness is already mentioned several times on the forum. So I won't be talking about that any more. The rules of engagement are set. I hope to see a good battle between RIOS and STRAUSS and some other cyclists too ofcourse. Perhapse my best one? And I hope to read more positive news on the forum. BTW Bosko nice reply.
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Post by chakra on Aug 24, 2019 13:03:06 GMT 1
Nice win for Strauss (again).
I have seen the benefit now of a cyclist with form 10 and a cyclist with a lower form. Vits attacking 3 times and ending 4th. Van Eynde attacking 5 times and ending 10th. Both similar cyclists.
Sparta is closing the gap!! And so does Quiller. Auwch! I need some good results and that will be hard.
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