Site down May 2016

[ElGringo]

Hi to all,

the game is back online but we still didn't found what made the site become unavailable so that could happen again.

I tryied to postpone stgaes but the hosting spaca wasn't also available so I wasn't hable to postpone stages like I wanted.

I already postpone stages 1 week to give us time to try to fix everything.

Problems:

- Sunday stage run in all divisions, so we need to recover fitness of riders.

- Todays stage run in div 6, I didn't had time to fix all calendar after the game came back online so more riders to recover fitness.

- We will give a good bonus money to all managers to compensate this problem and this week without races, also thinking that managers have to deal with new contracts, probably something between 500k/800k, this I need to speak with Schizm.

- We also need to fix the final standings and the division points.

This is a lot of work for me and Schizm so making a backup would be so easy to do but I don't know if is the best solution.

We are a democracy so maybe a poll to find the best solution?

[Poekie]

What are in your opionion the options to choose from?

And isn't 500/800k on the high side?

[eboese]

I think moving back to a back-up point would still be the favorable option, but it does depend at what point in time that would be. Do we have that view?

The other option will be way too much manual work and tweaking. Personally I would try and avoid that (also for your own sake).

[bosko]

Maybe I'm missing something, but how can anyone have a problem with using a backup?
If you can fix it that way (so we go back to saturday), it's just as if the game has been on pause for a week, no?

[Schizm]

The last backup we are sure of is from the 15th , first thing I will do when I get home is look for a more recent one (but one before saturday evening). So the main question is : are the managers prepared to go back almost 2 weeks (if we dont find a better option) and rerun everything since ?

[davyduck]

I totally agree on the back-up option, back to saturday.
That is from my point of view the best option.
If some races have to be overdone, no problem.

I really don't like the financial compensation.
For starters 500k/800k is supermuch money.
If you have 10M on you bankaccount, who cares about 500k ...

Edit: I have no problem in going back 2 weeks, eventhough I won all the races since then. I feel bad about the 3 transfers I did since that. I would lose those. But aas I said, you win some, you lose some ...

[roller]

May 24, 2016 13:21:05 GMT 1 bosko said:

Maybe I'm missing something, but how can anyone have a problem with using a backup?
If you can fix it that way (so we go back to saturday), it's just as if the game has been on pause for a week, no?

There are some problems in game with a back-up:

1) You could have buyed a strong ciclist for a small amount of money and with a back-up You could loose him.
2) You may have won 1 or more stages after the date of back-up and restoring the game may give to the other coaches the oportunity to set new tattics (and "stole" your victories).
3) You may have changes in the health of ciclists (new injuries or chages in the injuries occurring in last races)

This is only a small list of in-game problem. Probably there are other "sotware" iusse that I can't imagine.

By the way, I'm for the back-up too (for the simply reason that: if you don't use it, don't save it), but I'm fine with the situation as it is too.

I think that the most important part is to choose how to act quickly.

I can wait without problems untill the problem is fixed (1week-2weeks-1month etc.) but is better to know what'd change or change not as soon as possible.

[troxius]

I would prefer the Back-up. The most fare for all teams.

And possibly the quickest. If there are no races for a long periode new managers might not show up when the game starts again. to bad for my transfers and result while managers weren't added to my league

[Poekie]

I would lose two 18-year olds, but I don't mind if a backup is restored.

Also ask IP if it is possible to have a backup at least every week.

[Ab Normaal]

Back up is the most fair solution I think

[brokenchain]

poekie, a back up for the 15th is effectively a week ago. Even though it would be better to have daily back ups in my opinion. Then we can go back as quick as possible and transfers are the least disturbed.

I will now loose my best rider ( by far ). And yes i got him with some luck ( maybe ) because the site was down that evening too. I was however the first to bid on the last day of the auction. And i know others have gotten their best riders (cheap) because of a site down.

Also if people buy a rider or talent for a lot of money and train him for a week and find out their FA ( possibly ), and see it's not what they hoped. The seller will not get as much money in the new re-auction after the back up.

[Mike]

I think that the right decission is the one with the least work for our admins

[Schizm]

We are currently working on the db , we try to fix as much as possible. Unfortunately the best backup is that of the 15th (the one taht was made on the 22th can not be used because that one already contains some of the problems.

Please be patient. In fact the best you can do is not to log in until further notice.

[brokenchain]

i would just put the back up in if i were you. Especially if the plan is to start the game on sunday again. Then it doesn't really matter if there is a fixed database or if there is a week we have to do again.

[angelogik]

the backup has created several problems, my team has finished 1° 2° 3° at Tour and I had accumulated so many fans that there are now almost no more, so I bought lots of gadgets that now I find myself, the rewards of the league there are not ... the backup has created more problems than anything else, I hope you manage to fix the situation because as it is now does not go at all well ...