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Post by rarau on May 23, 2016 15:10:41 GMT 1
and it's about training updates. Some of my best riders miss training f.e. If there are problems like this, it's better to just cut out a week, and reset it to how it was 1 week ago before problems started. A pause of one week, gives time for the mods to fix the problem, and there is no need for compensation. Compensation is in my opinion a bad idea. You pump extra money in the game. So you get some kind of inflation. And some lose a lot (contract renewals, training, ...). Others lose nothing, but they all receive a bonus. So there should be a solution that wipes out the created inequality due to the downtime. I tried to postpone the race for tomorrow and I did in division 1, 2 and some of the 3 division, but the hosting space stopped working, seems that been hacked or is some bug.Maybe i wasnt understood very good. I speak only about this. When it is a small problem is better not to pospone anything because we could have more problems. And if someone dont put the tactics for the next day , because the site wasnt online for some hours => for this reason all teams will receive some money at the end of season. Like we see in the past : problems are only 1 per season so 200.000 per season will not modify the prices of cyclists. (or other $ is not necessarly to be this sum) I hope now is more clear -> english is not my mother tongue
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Post by phootyx on May 23, 2016 16:40:31 GMT 1
don't worry, we all speak english there but it is probably nobody's mother tongue
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Post by chakra on May 23, 2016 17:40:22 GMT 1
It's not only the tactics and training and contract renewals. A finiancial compensation isn't Always the best solution.
It's also the amount of sups and the material that will be sold with the update. Not been able to buy enough material will give me a week loss of approx 650K.
So a compensation of 200K isn't a compensation. For some teams it means bancrupcy or not.
And yes I know it's just a game and it is for fun. But be honest losing 650K is not fun. Losing good cyclist is not fun either.
I do appreciate all the work you put in guys. Don't misunderstand me.
So perhaps better to put things back as before the final race of the Tour of Qinghai Lake and postpone everything with a week. Or 2 weeks. Hopefully not longer than that.
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Post by eboese on May 24, 2016 0:13:30 GMT 1
Seems we are back online! Hopefully it will stay that way this time.
I do agree with the suggestion to move everything back one week. Ideally we would start this Sunday again with the third race of the Tour of Qinghai Lake, but not sure if that's even a possibility.
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roller
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Post by roller on May 24, 2016 8:15:15 GMT 1
I'm confident I'll do your best to solve the problem as equal as possible for every teams!
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Post by phootyx on May 24, 2016 8:15:58 GMT 1
I agree with a restoration before the last update but it is pretty sure that it is not possible to go precisely back to the day we want ... By the way, a restoration with a backup performed between the 2 last updates seems a good idea. After this, at least one week without rides and update must be schedule so that everyone can perform (redo) actions necessary to not be hugely impact by restoration itself. Moreover, as i understood, calendar will have to be reviewed, so it is a little season update for guys who make this game run ... so one or two week more without riding are probably necessary. => one or 2 week to perform restore/updates => one week more to let managers perform corrective actions for their teams Regards and don't be droopy (admins and managers ) This is a nice game that deserves support.
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Post by phootyx on May 24, 2016 8:28:58 GMT 1
and don't forget to set tactics for Volta a Portugal ... in case restoration will not be an option ...
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roller
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Post by roller on May 24, 2016 9:01:11 GMT 1
Attention!!! The calendar is changing. The next race is , at the moment, the 29 of may. It'll be the Xunhua - Ximing of Tour of Qinghai Lake. This stage was already simulated in 1.1 so my favorite ciclista have low fitness and another race to run. Having not buyed gadgets do to the long site down hurts my finances by 500k. A week with only 1 race and no possibility at all to compete for that'll hurt them more and for a bigger amount of money... This could drive me to buncrupsy. Please let us know, as soon as possible, what'll be the last action You'll do with this iussue. I have to reorganize all my tatctics and maybe to sell some ciclists to avoid buncrupsy.
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roller
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Post by roller on May 24, 2016 10:07:42 GMT 1
The last annuncement:
Game Down (24 May 2016) The game has been down, the website was unreach but the game keeped running.
We will postpone the races for next Sunday and keep the calendar like it was.
I am right now changing the date of the stages for next sunday.
All teams will be compensate in money, we also need to recover the fitness of the teams that runned the last stage of the tour.
Any thing else that needed to be fix please speake in the forum.
The Peloton Team
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Post by eboese on May 24, 2016 10:17:01 GMT 1
Not sure if anything is still going to be changed, but it seems the results of the last race of Tour of Qinghai Lake are indeed still included in the current standings (both division and general tour standings), that's not really ideal of course . On top of that the weekly update ran as well, giving everybody an additional fitness boost, which is not really fair to the teams who plan their weekly teams well. Is there any way we can go back to a point before the race and weekly update? What's the most recent recovery point we have? Sorry if it feels like I'm moaning here, that's not the intention. Just trying to think along. I know El G and Schizm always take the best action they possibly can.
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Post by chakra on May 24, 2016 10:28:30 GMT 1
Indeed the points of the tour of Qinghai Lake are included in the standings.
The financial reward and bonuses are included in the financial settings.
The fitness must be recalculated.
Perhaps the points of the cyclists?
The amount of sups won by the Qinghai Lake Tour is added to the weekly amount of supps.
Hopefully everything can be reset to the day before the system crashed. Otherwise it means a loss of $ 789.950
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Post by davyduck on May 24, 2016 10:53:01 GMT 1
I see a lot of questions, and propositions from different managers. I think unambiguous communication is necessary. It's so "important" that the managers know what will happen. (in my opinion there is a lack of clear communication now) To me it's not clear if the volta a Portugal will take place today. If so, managers should have been warned at least by email that the site is back online, and that tactics should be set.
Wishing the admins a lot of courage in restoring things! Everybody knows it's only a game, but everybody is also passionate about the game.
In situations like this democracy isn't the best way to find a solution. People in charge (admins) decide in their best conscience what will be the solution. The players just have to swallow, and continue playing. If that means that it costs you 500k, too bad. Your truck with 50 10.000$ bikes has been robbed :-) In my case several riders didn't get training. They propably went to the disco and had a hangover. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
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Post by Schizm on May 24, 2016 12:24:31 GMT 1
I was away all morning, only just returned and I see EG allready changed the calendar, I am trying to reach him because I think it is a better option to return to a back up (to atleast just before the update) - he probably leaved for work in the meantime.
Whatever the solution it probably is save to say that we try to fix as much as possible this evening.
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Post by phootyx on May 24, 2016 13:11:26 GMT 1
Don't give you too much constraint, Schizm (and others who "control" the game). I agree with you that return to backup before last update is the solution that lead to less inconvenience (no week with poor results, no riders lost, ...) Do your best guys and if there is no race this week, it's not a huge problem
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Post by naspa on Jul 7, 2016 13:30:11 GMT 1
Well, last hour the site seems down. Server troubles again?
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