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Post by rarau on Jul 26, 2014 13:36:01 GMT 1
Wow, that was close. Lacroux takes it by 13 seconds. That's my first ever GC win in a grand tour... so woo hoo! I'm very disapointed before last race i was thinking: a) to go to general standings with Cardei b) or to "Save Fitness" and go with him on France? I choose a) and i was so close Today first mistakes of the season (perhaps i was on 2 trips with someone ) I play Parasca for winning today race, before today race have 85% fitness And Casenave and Toni have now 95% fitness, i forget race 2 of Columbia is tuesday You choose the team for France? I choose but perhaps is not the best team. I have some races i like , i dont know/think i will play for a jersey. I don't understand why Nattramn play with cyclist younger. The big tours are only for cyclists +25 years
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Post by kurtinsc on Jul 28, 2014 2:30:25 GMT 1
I've chosen my Tour team, but it's somewhat limited. My best mountain guy is there (who is also my highest transfer value rider), but he hasn't won a race since he came to my team (in September of 2013). I keep expecting results and getting very little. But I'm giving it another go... who knows, maybe it will work this time.
Other then him, it's all stage hunters. I don't have another potential GC guy (and I'm not even sure about the one that I have picked). Maybe I can use some attacks and challenge for a mountain jersey though... I'll have to think about it.
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Post by kurtinsc on Jul 30, 2014 4:08:50 GMT 1
Average skills for my tour team:
Flat - 5.2 Hill - 6.8 Mountain - 6.6 Downhill - 3.0 Sprint - 6.2 TT - 5.6
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Post by rarau on Jul 31, 2014 19:44:09 GMT 1
for my team without captain:
Flat - 6.75 Hill - 5.75 Mountain - 5.5 Downhill - 3.25 Sprint - 6 TT - 6.5
with my captain mountain will be a lot higher for my team, but the other skills lower. Having low fitness 79% and playing him almost only for being captain in big tours his skills without LS are not so concludent.
Happy because Meessen win first race on France. Seeing 2 cyclists till end I was afraid I will end again on place 2.
Waiting Spain for seeing where my big boys are on mountain towards all other cyclists from this division
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Post by kurtinsc on Aug 10, 2014 23:55:21 GMT 1
TDF standings and health
1. Laternano 16 7 1.10:43:42 Luptatorii din Rarau (100%... fitness training FTW) 2. Bouquin 21 0 +2:16 Snake Milano (85%) 3. Sironi 15 28 +2:18 WC VroOom (99%) 4. Cauchy 25 10 +2:36 Warner Bros Racing (100%) 5. Tonio 14 0 +3:28 Tours.Cycle.Club (100%) 6. Van Mullem 15 1 +3:32 Pegasus Cycling (95%) 7. Cariello 25 3 +3:48 Snake Milano (95%) 8. Kettunen 13 0 +4:22 Pegasus Cycling (95%) 9. Lajoie 11 0 +4:40 The Mothers of Invention (99%) 10. Carriere 15 16 +4:42 WC VroOom (78%) 11. Gotta 7 0 +5:07 Tours.Cycle.Club (100%) 12. Geboers 24 7 +5:14 Warner Bros Racing (70%) 13. Le Marec 13 10 +5:26 Nattramn (100%) 14. Valente 10 0 +5:27 Tours.Cycle.Club (100%) 15. Rappe 3 0 +6:06 Snake Milano (95%) 16. Hobai 6 3 +6:45 Tours.Cycle.Club (100%) 17. Guichon 5 0 +6:52 Tours.Cycle.Club (100%) 18. Perras 7 2 +7:03 Luptatorii din Rarau (70%) 19. Garen 15 11 +7:23 Warner Bros Racing (70%) 20. Meessen 15 0 +7:55 Luptatorii din Rarau (100%)
Most of the lower fitness guys have already been spit out of the top 10.
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Post by rarau on Aug 11, 2014 10:18:03 GMT 1
correct at me who you will think will win France? only first 17 have chances last week Kettunen have good chances but he lost some time unexpected for me. But also i don't know which cyclists are flat, who mountain, and who all around. By the way what huge differences in mountain in Vuelta a Burgos You all play with your best mountain cyclist in Burgos? After Burgos i expected some unexpected results in Spain especialy for me. Or it will be an oustanding Spain or a very low one.
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Post by evild on Aug 11, 2014 14:56:37 GMT 1
its all about tactics this game. For example, i know i cant aim for the time jersey in a big tour because there will always be anyone who uses fitness training. So i have the choice, go for stage wins and commit suicide, or stay low profile and end with riders at 100%. That also means that in some stages i need to save fitness. But i think i cant complain so far:-)
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Post by kurtinsc on Aug 14, 2014 0:44:05 GMT 1
its all about tactics this game. For example, i know i cant aim for the time jersey in a big tour because there will always be anyone who uses fitness training. So i have the choice, go for stage wins and commit suicide, or stay low profile and end with riders at 100%. That also means that in some stages i need to save fitness. But i think i cant complain so far:-) Well, lack of fitness training isn't a total killer... I managed to win the Giro without fitness training (albeit by the skin of my teeth). I took some big risks to get there though... lots of saving fitness with my leader on stages where it was possible I would have lost tons of time. It bit me a little in the Tour. I saved fitness on stage 2 with Cauchy (my GC guy) and lost an additional 2:09 because helpers won't pull back a save fitness rider. Cauchy is now 3:35 off the lead rather then 1:24. Pretty significant hit just to get that extra 4% fitness. I took some risks like that with Lacroux in the Giro but got away with them. Even with the fitness trainer, the key thing for Rarau wasn't the fitness training... it was the low effort 5% attack on Tuesday's stage. That move got him over 5 minutes on the peloton... GREAT call.
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Post by evild on Aug 14, 2014 8:52:56 GMT 1
He does that almost every stage. Why? Because he can with his fitness training. Where others have to save fitness, he can go participate in attacks and take time on tired or save fitness riders. I agree with you that fitness training doesnt decide everything, but it sure gives you a larger amount of tactics. Smart move of rarau IMO is not going for the stage wins like nattramn. That would cost him too much fitness and shrink his chances.
oh well maybe in spain i have to change my view and try to go for the time jersey instead of stages. Another thing which wonders me is the gap between us and the first 2 in GC. I have won 15 stages and 8 jerseys, and look how many points i'm behind. Tours 1 win, rarau 1 jersey. Oke, rarau has like 10000 riders, but tours... how did he do that:-) not that i'm jealous because when i see how semtex and alesana having hard times, i rather stay some longer in 3.1. But i'm just surprised that the gap is that big...
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Post by rarau on Aug 14, 2014 9:17:44 GMT 1
He does that almost every stage. Why? Because he can with his fitness training. Where others have to save fitness, he can go participate in attacks and take time on tired or save fitness riders. I agree with you that fitness training doesnt decide everything, but it sure gives you a larger amount of tactics. Smart move of rarau IMO is not going for the stage wins like nattramn. That would cost him too much fitness and shrink his chances. oh well maybe in spain i have to change my view and try to go for the time jersey instead of stages. Another thing which wonders me is the gap between us and the first 2 in GC. I have won 15 stages and 8 jerseys, and look how many points i'm behind. Tours 1 win, rarau 1 jersey. Oke, rarau has like 10000 riders, but tours... how did he do that:-) not that i'm jealous because when i see how semtex and alesana having hard times, i rather stay some longer in 3.1. But i'm just surprised that the gap is that big... I have 10 fitness not 15 like Natramm or 20. So i'm not full a fitness trainer I win in first stage something like 5 minutes or more to peloton 6. Laternano 00:04:17 8. Routier 00:09:30 The Mothers of Invention My player dont have awesome skills. He dont have a 8 skill I will show you his skills in next days My team for France was made especially for him BUT all other 3 cyclists was played for a stage with 100% So i play for stages too I think my "smart move" is my awesome captain who permit me to have 5 attacks , to have Save Fitness and to have also some points for helpers France is easy for general but Spain will be more difficult one, i dont said yet why So i dont know what kind of cyclist will win Spain. Jersey without 3 days general jersey dont give you too much points Why i'm in first 2 places? Because i have cyclists for all kind of races and why i dont win that races? Because i dont have good TT. Usually if 3 cyclists (who attack) finish in the same time, my cyclist is first or maybe 2. But usually when 5 cyclists attack 1 is far better then other 4, finish 1 and all the other 4 finish in the same time. And my cyclist finish 2. Why my cyclist finish 2? Because my cyclist have good steering, balance and downhill. And of course sprint. Why i'm on first place? Because place 2 + place 3 + place 2 + place 2 is better then place 10 + place 25 + place 1 + place 12 p.s. and of course i'm on place 1 because my team is probably more flat then all others. VroOom remember : 1/5/2014 DIV Finished 2 in division 4:8 with 3947 points. 1. Nightbiker 65 12 8 12 11597 2. WC VroOom 10 1 3 2 3947 3. Luptatorii din Rarau 7 1 3 0 3397 in last 2-3 weeks i dont participate in races because i dont wanted to promote being upset because Night crush us. So our teams are near in strenght.
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Post by rarau on Aug 14, 2014 9:23:16 GMT 1
its all about tactics this game. For example, i know i cant aim for the time jersey in a big tour because there will always be anyone who uses fitness training. So i have the choice, go for stage wins and commit suicide, or stay low profile and end with riders at 100%. That also means that in some stages i need to save fitness. But i think i cant complain so far:-) Well, lack of fitness training isn't a total killer... I managed to win the Giro without fitness training (albeit by the skin of my teeth). I took some big risks to get there though... lots of saving fitness with my leader on stages where it was possible I would have lost tons of time. It bit me a little in the Tour. I saved fitness on stage 2 with Cauchy (my GC guy) and lost an additional 2:09 because helpers won't pull back a save fitness rider. Cauchy is now 3:35 off the lead rather then 1:24. Pretty significant hit just to get that extra 4% fitness. I took some risks like that with Lacroux in the Giro but got away with them. Even with the fitness trainer, the key thing for Rarau wasn't the fitness training... it was the low effort 5% attack on Tuesday's stage. That move got him over 5 minutes on the peloton... GREAT call. i have stages where i attack and i finish with the peloton. So of course count luck too, count also steering, balance and downhill. A lot of cyclists from top 10 attack on same stages and win some minutes. Laternano luck is that he have all skills at the same level is not like 12 2 2 2 8 8 or 2 5 14 2 8 8 .
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Post by rarau on Aug 14, 2014 9:34:37 GMT 1
1. Luptatorii din Rarau 10 0 0 1 3116 2. Tours.Cycle.Club 1 5 1 1 2925 3. The Mothers of Invention 9 0 2 1 2479
by the way i'm on place 1 because Tours let me. He don't have juniors.
U21 Giro di Lombardia place 5-10-11-12-20 U21 Paris-Roubaix 2014 4-9-13-15-30 La Philippe Gilbert Juniors 1-8-18-19-23 Tour de Flanders Juniors 1-10-22-25-29
295 points
Without this 295 points Tours was on first place.
p.s. i have juniors in other 3 days tours too.
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Post by kurtinsc on Aug 15, 2014 3:44:07 GMT 1
Hmm.
I've ignored juniors in stage races and just focused them on the junior races. I'm thinking that was probably a larger impact on points then I though. Something to think about for next season (if we end up having it... crossing my fingers)
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Post by rarau on Aug 15, 2014 9:34:10 GMT 1
I'm very disapointed by yesterday TTT race. So if you see i'm not perfect, i lost yesterday 12 minutes to Tours Almost the most unexpected results from all this years i play peloton Of course i play my cyclist at 70% (some of them have 80% before race) but even that to lose 12 minutes in this TTT? For this kind of races i dont like to play at general standings in big tours. You think ok i will win Spain, Italy and then 1-2 races before endings you lose first places. On 3 days is another discussion. So like a conclusion maybe the calendar was the problem too. Burgos the hardes mountain 3 days tours is in front of Spain. How to have results in Burgos and Spain in the same time?!? I was almost all season in first place and now , because of Burgos, Tours is almost 1 1. Luptatorii din Rarau 10-0-0-2 3164 2. Tours.Cycle.Club 2-5-1-1 3107
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Post by Ab Normaal on Aug 15, 2014 10:09:10 GMT 1
So like a conclusion maybe the calendar was the problem too. Burgos the hardes mountain 3 days tours is in front of Spain. How to have results in Burgos and Spain in the same time?!? Spain isn't a real mountain race this year.
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