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Post by chakra on Oct 18, 2012 22:16:49 GMT 1
3 in a row. Perhaps 4 The flat races will be much less succesfull for my team. Donckerwolcke, Adrici...and something more, Cinca and Pasquarello are making it hard to win the sprints but Roland remains succesfull. I'm wondering where it will end.
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Post by gelies on Oct 20, 2012 13:57:19 GMT 1
3 in a row. Perhaps 4 The flat races will be much less succesfull for my team. Donckerwolcke, Adrici...and something more, Cinca and Pasquarello are making it hard to win the sprints but Roland remains succesfull. I'm wondering where it will end. Arcidiacono!!!! Roland has been a pain in the ... I wouldn't be surprised to find his name in the usada report against Armstrong : media2.gazzetta.it/gazzetta/pdf/2012/usada-armstrong.pdf
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Post by Quatannens on Oct 22, 2012 19:38:20 GMT 1
Lol, the new race engine more realistic? :'D Some facts: Roland wins 5 stages from the 7, very realistic. Then the most hilarious fact: It were all stages with some mountains, so certainly no sprint finishes and he is only 7th in general :-) The new race engine has failed for me (again)
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Post by rarau on Oct 22, 2012 20:02:03 GMT 1
Lol, the new race engine more realistic? :'D Some facts: Roland wins 5 stages from the 7, very realistic. Then the most hilarious fact: It were all stages with some mountains, so certainly no sprint finishes and he is only 7th in general :-) The new race engine has failed for me (again) for me too in 3.6 Secl win already 4 stages and my player Koteva 317 152 win ALL sprints and mountain ... Points 1. Kotewa 63 2. Lanna 48 3. Lucassen 46 Mountain 1. Kotewa 50 2. Secl 44 3. Lucassen 23 how is possible i dont know ...
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Post by chakra on Oct 23, 2012 16:48:18 GMT 1
Lol, the new race engine more realistic? :'D Some facts: Roland wins 5 stages from the 7, very realistic. Then the most hilarious fact: It were all stages with some mountains, so certainly no sprint finishes and he is only 7th in general :-) The new race engine has failed for me (again) Let's say that: 1. Roland has trained 3 season mountain @ trainerskill=20 2. The team started the Giro with 85% fitness. (4 out of 5 cyclists had 85%, just Brouillet had 100%) So they could not have a good time in the TTT. 3. His sprint skill is rather good. ;D 4. His flat isn't the lowest of the team, but not very good. I must say I was surprised to win the 2nd race: Firenze > Pisa. With 116km flat. 5. His mood is "delighted". 6. Still has 89% fitness after the 8th race. (He saved some fitness in the race to Messina on Saturday) 7. He has good second skills. (Steering: 12 - bravery: 10) Perhaps the race tactics have an influence too. Still trying to find out how it really works. Whether the RE is realistic or not. It's a game! You win some, you lose some. Now I'm winning, but next week I'll sure be losing. Just enjoying the moments of glory.
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Post by gelies on Oct 23, 2012 20:05:43 GMT 1
Roland is of course one of the best mountain guys.... right now Arcidiacono seemed to be either the second or the third best, therefore the results are rather correct i believe....probably there is too much mountain in the giro, but as well there is a lot of flat in france. Anyway, knowing borrego he would have probably given some hard times to roland...but we will never know this!
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Post by chakra on Oct 24, 2012 22:44:01 GMT 1
Yep Tour de France is way too flat for my team. There I will surely not wins 60% of the races. But perhaps I can take Roland to the TdF... It is funny how Nica stays behind. He has got flat as well as mountain, but keeps racing 21st - 26th place. Real dissapointing. Today: DAMN!! CZW did race at 100% ?? Boeykens' effort was real hard to beat today. Even in the sprint he showed his heels to Roland. That was not a beautifull sight. ;D
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Post by Quatannens on Oct 25, 2012 20:41:58 GMT 1
A fact is that they tried to make the RE more realistic. Tell me how one guy can win 7 (or how many is it right now?) stages in one tour without any of them being bunchsprints... I'm certainly not saying I don't enjoy moments of glory, just looking how the new RE doesn't work Off course I don't know Rollands mountainskill, but is it realistic that every mountainstage ends in some kind of bunchsprint? The problem of before is certainly not solved. The problem was that the strongest cyclist won every stage he was theoretically the best in. Now it's even worse. With helpers it's even possible to ignore the effect of flat tires, falls. The best guy, even if he is unlucky wins the stage. A little bit random would be nice. If he wins every stage in a sprint, he had a perfect position every time, he never got blocked or whatever, ... Just impossible. I really regret I couldn't enter to see what Borrego's results would have been. He was trained very high in mountain as well, but now with sprinttraining he could have won some stages as well. I just hope the makers realise they didn't change a lot about the game. They made it more complicated and the best cyclist even wins more. (I didn't check the effort of other cyclists, but I am afraid the other managers were afraid to use some fitness to win a stage. I regret that. If they used extra fitness, there seriously is something wrong...) The worst part of all is that the result of the Giro is mainly dependent on timetrialskill. I guess a 4-2-8-2-0-6 could win the Giro.
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Post by rarau on Oct 25, 2012 22:02:26 GMT 1
Tell me how one guy can win 7 (or how many is it right now?) stages in one tour without any of them being bunchsprints... The problem was that the strongest cyclist won every stage he was theoretically the best in. Now it's even worse. With helpers it's even possible to ignore the effect of flat tires, falls. The best guy, even if he is unlucky wins the stage. If he wins every stage in a sprint, he had a perfect position every time, he never got blocked or whatever, ... They made it more complicated and the best cyclist even wins more. yup, i have the same impression how a cyclist could win all the sprints and mountain sprints? and how another cyclist win all mountain stages? Not only in your group in a lot of grups... Another problem is that, perhaps, are too many races in Italy who end on a mountain
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Post by Quatannens on Oct 27, 2012 0:17:31 GMT 1
A little bit of random would do no harm. The average will still be the same. But something invisible as day form that can vary from 90% to 110% for example? So a 10 mountain will climb mostly as 10 climber, but in a bad day he will have to let the group go faster, along with the 9 mountain climbers. On the other hand, he can have a superday and climb with the 11 mountain climbers. This are just random numbers, but think about it.
Another place to implent (way more) random is the bunchsprint, even if it's a mountainsprint. You don't only need the skills to win a sprint, you have to be lucky as well.
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Post by chakra on Oct 27, 2012 16:18:55 GMT 1
So finally Roland won 6 races. Competed in almost every sprint and won a lot of them. The 9th and 10th race other managers increased the effort.So he did not win these races. I love the final result of the Giro. But hey, who wouldn't if Roland was his cyclist?
I fully agree with the statement that a cyclist with a good TT and flat wins the Giro. It certainly is an advantage. But what about Tibor Nica? He is on the transferlist now. Has any one an explanation for his results? He ended almost in any race between 20 and 26th place. Overall 25th in the final standings of the Giro. He was assigned as helper in every race. Could that be an explanation?
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Post by rarau on Oct 27, 2012 17:59:03 GMT 1
But what about Tibor Nica? He is on the transferlist now. Has any one an explanation for his results? He ended almost in any race between 20 and 26th place. Overall 25th in the final standings of the Giro. He was assigned as helper in every race. Could that be an explanation? Palermo Messina 4. Nica 0 0 same time ALESANA Messina - Etna 23. Pasquariello 1 0 00:02:01 C10H15NO 24. Nica 0 0 same time ALESANA end in mountain normal result 17. Pasquariello 0 0 00:01:52 C10H15NO 21. Nica 1 0 same time ALESANA Milano Torino a lot of hill Falzes - Cortina d'Ampezzo 19. Donckerwolcke 0 1 00:07:12 P&P Runners 23. Nica 0 0 same time ALESANA dounhill but a lot of mountain Padova-San Martino 20. Pasquariello 0 0 00:00:10 C10H15NO 23. Nica 1 0 same time ALESANA already 2 flats etc for be in a top 10 on Giro you need to have a 2 2 10 2 3 2 cyclist to have better results in a race you need a very good sprint 5/6
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Post by rarau on Oct 27, 2012 18:00:37 GMT 1
Tibor Nica
Primary skills Flat 7 Hill 1 Mountain 7 Downhill 2 Sprint 2 Time trial 2
Secondary skills Steering 12 Experience 4 Balance 10 Leadership 0
with 5 hill and sprint you will have awesome results with him
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Post by Genomico on Oct 27, 2012 22:11:42 GMT 1
... I fully agree with the statement that a cyclist with a good TT and flat wins the Giro. It certainly is an advantage... In my division the cyclist that won the Giro has 1.4 on flat and 1.2 on TT
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Post by chakra on Oct 27, 2012 22:53:35 GMT 1
Thks for the analasys. But as said he is for sale now.
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