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Post by driewielerken on Sept 20, 2012 13:24:45 GMT 1
Why is Montaner better than Merten today?
E. Montaner 7 2 4 2 2 2 4 19 3 2 174 67 26 80
R. Merten 7 1 5 3 2 1 6 11 2 1 202 90 27 80
Both were at 85% for the race, same tactic(nothing) and yet there is 2min 30 sec between them.
Duron finishes 3 times behind Montaner in the race and is in front of Montaner in the GC? Who can explain that one? Duron: 6 2 6 1 1 2 3 19 4 2 176 57 24 80
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Post by JoeLag on Sept 20, 2012 14:10:16 GMT 1
Why is Montaner better than Merten today? E. Montaner 7 2 4 2 2 2 4 19 3 2 174 67 26 80 R. Merten 7 1 5 3 2 1 6 11 2 1 202 90 27 80 Because he's better at hill skill? It could be 2.8 vs 1.0 - so it wouldn't be surprising at all.
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Post by Faaneuh on Sept 20, 2012 15:48:43 GMT 1
i end 21 with my rider D. Schippers 2 10 2 1 1 2 14 15 6 0 180 80 24 80
I really think the new RE is full of bullshit, He doesnt have sprint but there is 82 km hill cmon then he best be at least in the first 10...
G. Rimaux 7 5 1 4 2 1 17 18 4 3 188 82 24 60 this riders attacks at attack pont 3 on 90 effort... He doesnt take any mointain points and he ends 25th... What a laugh the new race engine...
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Post by negru on Sept 20, 2012 20:44:50 GMT 1
The way I see it with your rider, from i what i saw until now:
1.As long as a rider is not setted as an attacker, he will not get out of the peloton, doesn't matter how powerfull his skill is 2.Regarding the sprint points and the finish, it only counts the type of land the sprint is on and the sprint skill. 3.If the attack is not successful, then the riders continue to stay in the peloton. I believe from what i've seen until now that also for attack it depends on the type of terrain the attack is on. For the last race, my hill expert, bought from you, has been set to attack in three points. Luckily, the second attack was succesfull.
In the race you are talking about, the end was on flat. Therefore, if you had more riders coming at the same time, sprint and flat would matter, not your rider's huge skill.
So what i believe, is that in order to increase your chances to win the races, you should have attacked at every beginning of hill. Another bad point at the moment is there is no report on succesfull attacks.
I might be wrong, but from what i've seen, i think this how it works.
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Post by Faaneuh on Sept 20, 2012 21:05:28 GMT 1
maybe i am just to stuppid and i have to quit with this game...
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Post by Genomico on Sept 20, 2012 21:49:04 GMT 1
maybe i am just to stuppid and i have to quit with this game... You got 2 of the best allround cyclists and are one of the best hill-teams, so you cannot give up that easily It's just finding the right way to win stages and tours. Your ex-cyclist Keder won the race for me today, but he was lucky he didn't have hill-specialized-cyclists like you chasing him. And btw, you have Rarau in your division, that is one season of division-topic fun garanteed ;D
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Post by negru on Sept 20, 2012 22:07:02 GMT 1
maybe i am just to stuppid and i have to quit with this game... Hey, we've been in the same group and i think you have a very good team. It's a new game engine and it's clear for all of us it will take some time to understand it, besides any possible bugs. So don't give up so easily, it may be pretty fun after we understand how we works. After all, we had only four races until now, so i think is pretty early to decide if we like it or not.
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Post by rarau on Sept 21, 2012 19:30:44 GMT 1
Again i'm in the easiest group If we would give the #1 division 20 points, the #2 19 until 1 point for #20, we get the following division ranking:
Rank Div. Points 1 Div. 3:16 57 2 Div. 3:6 56 3 Div. 3:11 54 4 Div. 3:1 51 5 Div. 2:3 50 6 Div. 3:14 49 7 Div. 3:15 48 8 Div. 3:10 48 9 Div. 2:4 41 10 Div. 3:13 38 11 Div. 2:2 37 12 Div. 3:3 36 13 Div. 2:1 33 14 Div. 4:17 32 15 Div. 3:8 31 16 Div. 3:5 31 17 Div. 3:7 27 18 Div. 3:9 19 19 Div. 3:12 15 20 Div. 4:55 14 in this game are some groups in division 2 ? I don't see them peloton.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=pelotongeneral&action=display&thread=8120
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Post by Faaneuh on Sept 23, 2012 12:40:46 GMT 1
My first victory of the season... Wow> rarau what i dont understand is that you dont have many points... Did you sell all your good flaters? Its now that you should take points... I think mercato Uno is favourite number one to win our division!
After the first week i stay with my opinion! I will try to fight for place 5! We will see!
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Post by rarau on Sept 23, 2012 14:30:36 GMT 1
My first victory of the season... Wow> rarau what i dont understand is that you dont have many points... Did you sell all your good flaters? Its now that you should take points... I think mercato Uno is favourite number one to win our division! After the first week i stay with my opinion! I will try to fight for place 5! We will see! I sell all flaters who dont have a good training on flat. I sell cyclists like 822 222 But i have 3 flaters with 9 (one of them, 21y, i could sell him soon) 4 with flat 8 (one not trained, one of my captains) 4 with flat 7 (one not trained, i dont like his training on flat) this 11 (2 not trained) are my flaters. You need to understand that me and joelag are young teams, we are born later then others teams like Petrolistul and maybe some of other teams from our division. I don't make, yet, some statistics to see who is young and who isn't on our group. Even my flaters are like x22 222 i think now, on final sprint, counts much more the sprint, maybe some users from our group have better sprint OR i put some wrong tactics. Results (View absolute times) Nr Cyclist Fl Fa Time Team 1. Macedo 0 0 07:29:23 Kannikoerski 2. Schulze 1 2 same time Petrolul Ploiesti 3. De Santis 1 0 same time LoveAndPeaceToTheWorld today we have 30 cyclists on the same time , this i dont like On v1 only 5-10 cyclists could finish in the same time. Maybe i dont put the good helpers? Maybe my cyclists have low mood and exp? I don't know what to say. In v1 when i play a player at 100% i was sure he will finish in top 10 but now i dont know if i finish on place 1 or 30
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Post by Faaneuh on Sept 23, 2012 16:14:02 GMT 1
we have to adebt to new re! i must admit that i also have difficulty to understand, and enjoy this new game. my feeling says that we start all over again... I started from the start but always trained hill and that is not a big advantage in v1. I think that in v2 hill is again underestemated but we will see.
Rarau i am looking forward to your analyse of our division!
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Post by driewielerken on Sept 24, 2012 16:28:23 GMT 1
i end 21 with my rider D. Schippers 2 10 2 1 1 2 14 15 6 0 180 80 24 80 I really think the new RE is full of bullshit, He doesnt have sprint but there is 82 km hill cmon then he best be at least in the first 10... G. Rimaux 7 5 1 4 2 1 17 18 4 3 188 82 24 60 this riders attacks at attack pont 3 on 90 effort... He doesnt take any mointain points and he ends 25th... What a laugh the new race engine... I won with a 1-7-4-2-1-2. attacks at points 1, 3, 4 and 7. He was able to finish first with 3 minutes and 15 seconds and was first in every sprint. They should give us a decent stageprofile. Now I don't know if it's hill or mountain, downhill or flat. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one with that problem. The only solution this season is write every part down with the % and keep this for next season. But if they change the profiles we are screwed again. If everything was clear(use colours, show the % if you stand on the profile) it would be easier to learn to know the new RE imo. Now you can't see the report and you don't know what % we are riding on
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Post by Faaneuh on Sept 25, 2012 22:03:48 GMT 1
i really must miss something... my riders who look ideal for this stage didnt finish on a good place... can you guys explain me how they didnt do good in this race... A. Grazia 1 7 7 2 2 2 12 13 6 6 168 64 24 65 final sprinter at 95% J. Sironi 1 7 7.7 2 2 2 13 19 2 1 181 61 21 65 attack at 1,3 and 7 at 95% didnt get away.
helpers K. Oosthuysse 1 10 2 1 2 2 17 18 6 3 181 67 27 64 at 100% C. Goorts 5 3 7 1 2 2 18 11 4 1 160 51 22 90 at 70% H. Wallner 7 5 1 3 1 2 19 9 3 2 201 92 22 75 at 70%
what am i doing wrong?
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Post by JoeLag on Sept 26, 2012 0:09:02 GMT 1
i really must miss something... my riders who look ideal for this stage didnt finish on a good place... can you guys explain me how they didnt do good in this race... A. Grazia 1 7 7 2 2 2 12 13 6 6 168 64 24 65 final sprinter at 95% J. Sironi 1 7 7.7 2 2 2 13 19 2 1 181 61 21 65 attack at 1,3 and 7 at 95% didnt get away. helpers K. Oosthuysse 1 10 2 1 2 2 17 18 6 3 181 67 27 64 at 100% C. Goorts 5 3 7 1 2 2 18 11 4 1 160 51 22 90 at 70% H. Wallner 7 5 1 3 1 2 19 9 3 2 201 92 22 75 at 70% what am i doing wrong? Indeed. Your cyclists look great for the Pirineos stage. Maybe that the TT + Sprint combination is too small to get away at all? My Venturato has more than 5 in TT + Sprint. Apart from that he is over 8 in mountain. And he started the stage with 99% (vs 95%) and did 100% effort (vs 95%). So you have to admit that Venturato is slightly better disposed to attack in the mountain parts of this stage. So maybe: Bad luck because the attack only tightly failed. Perhaps you would have succeeded with an attack at point 2 (hill 6%) - or if you would have used 100% effort. N.B.: In my understanding the helpers do not help at all in attacking.
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Post by Faaneuh on Sept 26, 2012 6:19:50 GMT 1
with more than 5 in sprint and tt you mean like x-x-8-x-5-5???
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