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Post by Schizm on Jul 25, 2018 12:11:38 GMT 1
Skill evolution study Total Skill/age* ... * including the invisible decimalsedit : I just realised this includes BOT (but not teamless) cyclistsCorrected to only active teams Total Skill/age* Rank | # cyclists | Top Skill | Average | Avg. Top20 | 18 | 117 | 13.86 | 12.44 | 13.45 | 19 | 439 | 17.30 | 13.75 | 16.70 | 20 | 532 | 20.70 | 15.16 | 19.94 | 21 | 474 | 25.46 | 16.58 | 23.53 | 22 | 438 | 28.57 | 18.15 | 26.81 | 23 | 388 | 32.48 | 19.20 | 30.04 | 24 | 316 | 34.45 | 19.61 | 32.92 | 25 | 217 | 38.39 | 23.03 | 35.72 | 26 | 163 | 42.53 | 28.34 | 37.89 | 27 | 111 | 42.38 | 32.28 | 40.45 | 28 | 114 | 45.71 | 35.74 | 42.52 | 29 | 83 | 47.98 | 36.75 | 44.26 | 30 | 75 | 49.52 | 39.06 | 46.98 | 31 | 75 | 51.91 | 41.09 | 47.79 | 32 | 87 | 54.37 | 41.80 | 49.21 | 33 | 43 | 53.26 | 43.36 | 49.03 | 34 | 47 | 54.24 | 43.73 | 49.49 | 35 | 57 | 59.52 | 45.84 | 52.79 | 36 | 75 | 56.18 | 46.20 | 53.68 | 37 | 270 | 56.40 | 46.60 | 54.91 | 38 | 153 | 50.89 | 42.25 | 49.14 | 39 | 50 | 41.61 | 35.13 | 39.70 | 40 | 10 | 35.58 | 27.77 | 27.77 |
the ages will change when the season update so this is sort of a final update for the season
Skill/age Rank | # cyclists | Top Skill | Average | Avg. Top20 | Evo # cyc | Evo Top | Evo. Avg. | 18 | 376 | 17,67 | 14,08 | 16,73 | 259 | 3,81 | 1,63 | 19 | 520 | 21,27 | 15,40 | 20,12 | 81 | 3,97 | 1,66 | 20 | 452 | 24,12 | 17,48 | 22,86 | -80 | 3,42 | 2,31 | 21 | 442 | 29,17 | 18,43 | 26,33 | -32 | 3,71 | 1,85 | 22 | 391 | 31,81 | 20,39 | 29,58 | -47 | 3,25 | 2,24 | 23 | 338 | 35,95 | 21,24 | 32,75 | -50 | 3,46 | 2,05 | 24 | 277 | 37,62 | 21,80 | 35,39 | -39 | 3,17 | 2,19 | 25 | 166 | 41,87 | 27,65 | 38,06 | -51 | 3,48 | 4,62 | 26 | 156 | 44,56 | 30,81 | 40,21 | -7 | 2,03 | 2,47 | 27 | 107 | 44,79 | 34,12 | 42,33 | -4 | 2,41 | 1,84 | 28 | 111 | 47,57 | 37,64 | 44,49 | -3 | 1,86 | 1,90 | 29 | 79 | 49,75 | 38,95 | 45,96 | -4 | 1,77 | 2,20 | 30 | 71 | 51,45 | 40,95 | 48,67 | -4 | 1,93 | 1,89 | 31 | 76 | 53,77 | 42,34 | 49,43 | 1 | 1,86 | 1,25 | 32 | 88 | 56,00 | 42,84 | 50,54 | 1 | 1,63 | 1,04 | 33 | 49 | 54,74 | 44,33 | 50,51 | 6 | 1,47 | 0,97 | 34 | 51 | 55,42 | 44,82 | 50,69 | 4 | 1,18 | 1,08 | 35 | 58 | 59,53 | 46,23 | 53,23 | 1 | 0,02 | 0,39 | 36 | 73 | 54,83 | 44,90 | 52,35 | -2 | -1,35 | -1,30 | 37 | 257 | 53,70 | 44,06 | 52,29 | -13 | -2,70 | -2,54 | 38 | 145 | 46,92 | 38,29 | 45,05 | -8 | -3,97 | -3,96 | 39 | 45 | 36,49 | 30,55 | 34,46 | -5 | -5,12 | -4,58 | 40 | 9 | 29,95 | 22,25 | 22,25 | -1 | -5,63 | -5,52 |
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Post by Zberg on Jul 29, 2018 9:15:56 GMT 1
Cool stats, Schizm! 👍
Being not a very frequent visitor of the forum, I just came across them. Anyway, you have one additional fan! 😊
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Post by Schizm on Jul 30, 2018 9:02:47 GMT 1
AFter the update, the reference for the new season Age Age | # cyclists | Top | Avg. | 31 | 6 | 51.68 | 50.72 | 32 | 6 | 53.88 | 52.4 | 33 | 12 | 56.09 | 52.07 | 34 | 10 | 54.84 | 52.33 | 35 | 9 | 55.51 | 52.83 | 36 | 19 | 59.53 | 53.44 | 37 | 18 | 54.74 | 52.58 | 38 | 24 | 53.52 | 51.61 | Total | 104 | 59.53 | 52.33 |
P.S. : The first 30 year old for the season is already knocking on the ports of the 50+ skillers Topteams Rank | # cyclists | | Average | Avg. Age | 1 | 13 | Op kop de sloot in | 53.2 | 34.92 | 2 | 9 | De Kasseienstoempers | 52.3 | 32.89 | 3 | 8 | BeterLaatDanNooit | 54. | 35.75 | 4 | 7 | WC Bloedzak | 52.8 | 33.86 | 5 | 7 | Neo | 52.4 | 35.71 | 6 | 6 | De Droeftoeters | 52.5 | 36.67 | 7 | 4 | R.Antwerp B.C | 51.6 | 35.25 | 8 | 4 | StreetFighters | 51.5 | 37.5 | 9 | 4 | WC VroOom | 52.2 | 36. | 10 | 4 | joachim1107 | 53.1 | 36.25 | 11 | 4 | Tossboom | 50.8 | 38. |
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Post by Schizm on Jul 30, 2018 9:04:49 GMT 1
And the new age table Skill/age Rank | # cyclists | Top Skill | Average | Avg. Top20 | | 18 | 30 | 13.46 | 12.30 | 12.45 | | 19 | 422 | 17.93 | 14.02 | 16.95 | | 20 | 536 | 21.53 | 15.42 | 20.35 | | 21 | 490 | 24.38 | 17.18 | 23.06 | | 22 | 464 | 29.40 | 18.20 | 26.50 | | 23 | 418 | 32.05 | 20.05 | 29.76 | | 24 | 374 | 35.97 | 20.54 | 32.92 | | 25 | 278 | 37.77 | 21.91 | 35.55 | | 26 | 166 | 42.09 | 27.76 | 38.21 | | 27 | 157 | 44.70 | 30.94 | 40.34 | | 28 | 107 | 44.93 | 34.23 | 42.45 | | 29 | 112 | 47.69 | 37.65 | 44.61 | | 30 | 79 | 49.92 | 39.06 | 46.07 | | 31 | 71 | 51.68 | 41.03 | 48.78 | | 32 | 76 | 53.88 | 42.42 | 49.55 | | 33 | 88 | 56.09 | 42.91 | 50.64 | | 34 | 49 | 54.84 | 44.39 | 50.59 | | 35 | 51 | 55.51 | 44.86 | 50.75 | | 36 | 58 | 59.53 | 46.24 | 53.23 | | 37 | 73 | 54.74 | 44.81 | 52.26 | | 38 | 221 | 53.52 | 44.00 | 51.98 | | 39 | 97 | 46.70 | 37.79 | 43.88 | | 40 | 18 | 35.91 | 29.63 | 29.63 | |
so # of "retirees" 36->37 73-73 = 0 (?!) 37->38 257-221 = -36 38->39 145-97 = -48 39->40 45-18 = -27 40->41 -9
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Post by Schizm on Jul 30, 2018 9:48:40 GMT 1
Current situation of the teams with the most topskill cyclists of their age : Rank | | Top 20 | Top 10 | Top 5 | Top | 1 | Op kop de sloot in | 30 | 21 | 15 | 3 | 2 | BeterLaatDanNooit | 24 | 19 | 17 | 7 | 3 | De Droeftoeters | 24 | 18 | 12 | 3 | 4 | De Kasseienstoempers | 20 | 16 | 11 | 3 | 5 | Team Franconia | 19 | 11 | 6 | 1 | 6 | Team Slayer | 19 | 13 | 5 | 1 | 7 | Naspa Achne 26 | 17 | 8 | 5 | 0 | 8 | En Danseuse | 16 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 9 | WC VroOom | 15 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 10 | Neo | 14 | 9 | 3 | 1 | 11 | Melres United | 13 | 11 | 4 | 1 | 12 | Thors Thunder | 11 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 13 | ALESANA | 11 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 14 | WC Bloedzak | 9 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 15 | SeMTeX | 8 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 16 | Tossboom | 8 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 17 | CSC Cycling | 8 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 18 | The Mothers of Invention | 8 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 19 | By The Way | 7 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 20 | team dustin | 6 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 21 | Antares | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
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Post by ElGringo on Jul 30, 2018 11:31:03 GMT 1
And the new age table Skill/age Rank | # cyclists | Top Skill | Average | Avg. Top20 | | 21 | 490 | 24.38 | 17.18 | 23.06 | | 22 | 464 | 29.40 | 18.20 | 26.50 | | 23 | 418 | 32.05 | 20.05 | 29.76 | |
The generation with 22y old seems dopped, 22y and already 29 skills??? A real beast
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Post by pollyjean on Jul 30, 2018 13:44:49 GMT 1
Just to be sure... Only total skill is counted right? So a 7 7 7 7 7 7 rider is counted for just as much as a 0 7 14 0 7 14 rider?
Because it changes the importance of the stats above a lot.
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Post by wheelnut on Jul 30, 2018 18:14:10 GMT 1
I dont understand what I am looking at?
Top 20 means?
'new age' means?
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Post by davidandre on Jul 30, 2018 21:07:01 GMT 1
New age is the age of the cyclists after the update. Top 20 means the 20 best cyclist in their age class.
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Post by Schizm on Jul 30, 2018 21:23:14 GMT 1
pollyjean : total skill does not take into account how the skill are distributed, but since 7-7-7-7-7-7 is only 42 this can't be in the 50+ table. Ofcourse for cyclists who arent near to their full training potential this distribution favours the allrounders over the specialists. (Like stated somewhere on the previous page(s) I am working on s system to rate those specialists in a seperate table). I dont understand what I am looking at? Top 20 means? 'new age' means? The new "Age Table" a table containing the number of cyclist, the top total skill, the average total skill for every cyclists Age. Top 20 lists how many cyclists in this team are in the 20 highest total skill value for each age. edit : took some time to write down my answer so I did not see davidandre 's answer till after I completed mine.
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Post by wheelnut on Jul 30, 2018 22:13:48 GMT 1
Thanks I will ocme back in analyse more when I have time. Seems my riders are very much under skilled!
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Post by Stinus1986 on Aug 3, 2018 9:03:19 GMT 1
so # of "retirees" 36->37 73-73 = 0 (?!) 37->38 257-221 = -36 38->39 145-97 = -48 39->40 45-18 = -27 40->41 -9 If I read this correctly, the retirement start actually a year later then I thought. On the wiki it is stated as following: There is a chance each season change that your old riders will retire. On his 36th birthday => 1/16 chance to retire On his 37th birthday => 2/16 chance to retire On his 38th birthday => 4/16 chance to retire On his 39th birthday => 8/16 chance to retire On his 40th birthday => 16/16 chance to retire I understand from this, a rider has a 1/16 change when he goes from 35 to 36, but in your numbers it's from 36 to 37.
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Post by Schizm on Aug 3, 2018 10:08:22 GMT 1
you are right, I thought the training procedure (where I put the retirement clause about a year ago) was executed after the age increase, but the actaul figures seem to point out it is executed before the aging.
My apologies for the confusion.
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Post by Slayer772004 on Sept 9, 2018 20:13:45 GMT 1
Because the game is not all about the riders, but also about the strenght of the trainer, an overview of the trainervalues in the first 3 divisions:
BETERLAATDANNOOIT $761,508 OP KOP DE SLOOT IN $585,543 DE DROEFTOETERS $519,599 DE KASSEIENSTOEMPERS $518,151 TOSSBOOM $516,493 WC BLOEDZAK $487,578 MELRES UNITED $472,878 TEAM FRANCONIA $444,632 WC VROOOM $396,119 TEAM SLAYER $393,327
LOW BUDGET CYCLING $378,094 KS CRUSADERS $378,093 SEMTEX $367,138 JOACHIM1107 $364,327 R.ANTWERP B.C $361,833 BERGTOPPEN $353,271 THE MOTHERS OF INVENTION $331,969 DIRKS TOPPERS $317,579 CYCLING JOOP ZOETEMELK $296,311 QUILLER BOYS $294,443
GONZALEZ $278,160 ALESANA $272,769 GROENENHOEK $269,482 ARSENAL '98 $267,075 SPARTAB $256,798 GIK TEAM $251,574 CSC CYCLING $251,258 HEADCASE PRO CYCLING $250,634 POLLYJEAN $231,636 NGOGO UNITED $229,058
TOURS.CYCLE.CLUB $221,493 DOU RENNERERA $220,924 LUPTATORII DIN RARAU $214,794 TRAPPER123 $212,707 ANTARES $207,981 PERCIFORMES $207,439 RED ROAD RACING DEVILS $200,696 PEDALE BOLOGNESE $200,696 W3 CYCLING TEAM $195,361 TEAM DUSTIN $189,438
PLATTEN TUUB $188,595 IAM BARDET $187,506 EUSKADI BASQUE COUNTRY-MURIAS $180,502 POLHILL RACING CC $173,097 BURGOS-BH $172,871 PAN $172,216 THORS THUNDER $165,404 ST-ETIENNE CYCLO TEAM $165,059 NEO $164,945 BOLT THROWER $164,945
DEZWETERS $164,945 CHOSENONES $164,945 INAKE $164,945 BEAR $164,945 BERDIOS PRO CYCLING $164,945 LUDO DIERCKXENS CLASSICS TEAM $164,945 STREETFIGHTERS $158,688 CAJA RURAL - SEGUROS RGA $154,886 DERODELANTAARN $153,210 THE COOLNESS FACTOR $149,818
BY THE WAY $149,337 SCHIZMANO DEVELOPMENT $142,214 CYCLIST DEVILS $133,090 EN DANSEUSE $127,466 FANTACHICCA $127,302 CARAPAZ $126,033 NASPA ACHNE 26 $112,603 BARTOLI CT $105,084 TEAMCLASH $101,944 VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR $101,944
FIRLE BOSTAL $100,825 JOANTEAM $98,940 DMHEATINGCYCLING $85,864 BODI TEAM $78,473 LEMAN $39,897 TRAPANI AS $25,273
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Post by ElGringo on Sept 11, 2018 12:18:16 GMT 1
7 in 10 from div 1. If EGV was playing he had the higgest I think.
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