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Post by Ambi on Feb 6, 2007 16:19:43 GMT 1
Wrong, I only win 10 supporters with all my 5 cyclists and only 60 points so I don't win all the points of the 5 first places
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Post by Pissboy on Feb 6, 2007 16:20:59 GMT 1
Wrong, I only win 10 supporters with all my 5 cyclists and only 60 points so I don't win all the points of the 5 first places No, i mean every single cyclist gains points.
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Post by Ambi on Feb 6, 2007 16:28:58 GMT 1
That's true but if I have to choose: 60 points for all my cyclists or extra money I would pick the money. Because if your cyclist ends first in the individual division he doesn't get any prize money
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Post by Schizm on Feb 6, 2007 16:43:52 GMT 1
it does make sence to me that you have to pay all of your cyclists their victory bonus, and don't complain too much about it or else Il Padrino might decide to give your second placed riders and so on the same percentage of your victory bonus as he gets of the price money ... and also Il Padrino stated that experimenting with your contract-options happens at your own risk !
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Post by Ambi on Feb 6, 2007 16:51:19 GMT 1
You've got a point about the contract options
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Post by wisman on Feb 6, 2007 17:36:07 GMT 1
Hi all
-The regroeping is a bug that came from de individuel races, i think Il padrino will change this before the next ITT???
-Somebody said teams that have the same time where verry close , but in div 1.1. (nederland) 6 of 7 teams had the winnig time . I am sure that the real time between place 1 an 6 was more than 1 minute. Because 1 to 6 where close the difference still could be 10 sec * 6 is 1 minute
-All my riders got 10 points for sprint , but should my winning driver not get 10 points my second 8 enz......(all my team got 10 oints and second team all got 8 points.l
-I won in DIV 1.1 and made 60K on pricemoney -6500 for entering the race, that leaves 58500 Netto ,that is nice , can use the money. But is it not better to change the % of the earning simply because there will only be a max of 20 teams in a TTT.
Well we all learned a lot of this TTT , next time it will be better i have got full confidents in that. good luck all (p.s. in het nederlands is het wel makkelijker uitleggen)
gr
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Post by ando on Feb 6, 2007 17:41:20 GMT 1
The time gap is small because the stage was short (in rl TT differences are a little bigger because riders don't have the advantage of pelotons and good TT'ists run hard)! And TT stages should give points at all
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Post by NikeBoy on Feb 6, 2007 18:25:02 GMT 1
All nice and well.... but still points 2 till 5 from my initial post are not solved or explained yet
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Post by Il Padrino on Feb 6, 2007 20:16:55 GMT 1
I'm working on the grouping so it's not done with TT's
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Post by marino on Feb 6, 2007 20:31:02 GMT 1
Is it possible to make the grouping of today's TTT undone? I'm curious about the real time differences, although they are small.
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Post by Ambi on Feb 6, 2007 20:35:22 GMT 1
It is undone
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Post by marino on Feb 6, 2007 20:38:20 GMT 1
Okay, I didn't say a word
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Post by Il Padrino on Feb 6, 2007 20:38:34 GMT 1
In this thread I want to bring together all problems seen during the TTT of the Giro : 1) Grouping : no grouping should be applied, I guess. 2) Standing points : should they be applied, why 10,8,6,4,2 and not like in other tourraces ? In my case, div. 2.4, the last team in the result gets 1 point ?!? 3) Pricemoney : in my case, I ended 6th (pos 21 - 26) in div. 2.4 but only got 2625€ (with 75 participants, this corresponds to the 9th place). A 6th place should be 3750€ 4) Divisionpoints : like above, only received 4 divisionpoints (9th place) iso 10 points (for 6th place) 5) Supporters : with my 6th place I only received 2 extra supps (as if I finished 16th - 20th), iso 6 extra supps (for finishing 6th). If here also the 9th place would have been taken, I should have received 6 extra supps. 1- correct (this answers 80% of the questions/remarks in this topic I think) 2- I don't understand this. The points are exactly the same as in other tour races. Only they are now given to each cyclist of the team (because they finished in group). Results with TTT's are regarded as group results! Hence why number 6 gets 8 points, because his team came in second. 3- You will find that you ended at places 26-30. 4- see above 5- supporters are given per team, not per cyclist in TTTs Obviously, there were no bugs or anything in todays race. Only the way the results were displayed (grouped) made it look strange. But this has been changed, so that it's not like this anymore for TTs. I'd appreciate if people wouldn't scream BUG BUG so fast and just ask why certain things are like they are before jumping to conclusions...
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Post by Il Padrino on Feb 6, 2007 20:40:40 GMT 1
Oh yes: the grouping still applies in the tour standings
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Post by ando on Feb 6, 2007 20:50:59 GMT 1
I dont think points are given in TT it makes no sense en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France i think only in ITT points are awarded Points are also awarded for individual time trials: 15 for the winner down to 1 for 10th.
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