xerez
Cycling Tourist Group
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Post by xerez on Oct 6, 2011 20:57:33 GMT 1
I agree.. There's a huge difference between 10k and 100k - especially here in the beginning.. Couldn't you run the prize money "update" once again? I know we'd keep the prize money we already got then, but it would be the same for everyone I guess. Even if the update would be done again, you would never get 10 times more then you did now The maximum win bonus (70% division participation) is 40k (yellow jersey). But I have to admit I also was expecting more win bonus Now I have -100k I won the sprinter's jersey as well, so it's probably closer to 70k for me, but you know what I mean I exaggerated to prove my point.
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Post by Schizm on Oct 6, 2011 21:05:51 GMT 1
Even if the update would be done again, you would never get 10 times more then you did now The maximum win bonus (70% division participation) is 40k (yellow jersey). But I have to admit I also was expecting more win bonus Now I have -100k I won the sprinter's jersey as well, so it's probably closer to 70k for me, but you know what I mean I exaggerated to prove my point. But that is only because you are in a division with full participation. (app.) But if I'm correct you earned app. half of that amount.
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Post by Quatannens on Oct 6, 2011 21:19:05 GMT 1
Just to make the beginning of the game fair The beginning of the game isn't fair at all There are cyclists with 4 on a skill. With my cyclists with 2 flat I can NEVER win against someone with 4 flat. (100%*2=2<70%*4=2.8). So the managers who got a cyclist with a high flat or mountain skill, just have an advantage The beginning isn't fair at all, you just have to be lucky. Just as now, you have to be lucky to put your best riders in Tirreno. I didn't
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Post by pawelkepien on Oct 6, 2011 21:34:24 GMT 1
Ok, so maybe I should rather write "more fair" Uh, I didn't know about "4" riders (but maybe there is still some chance, taking into account the experience, leadership, flats etc.?)... And I didn't put my best riders in Tirreno too (but who knows...? ), hehe. Nvm, losing $6xxxx still isn't nice
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Post by xtremespooky on Oct 6, 2011 21:40:20 GMT 1
Just to make the beginning of the game fair The beginning of the game isn't fair at all There are cyclists with 4 on a skill. With my cyclists with 2 flat I can NEVER win against someone with 4 flat. (100%*2=2<70%*4=2.8). So the managers who got a cyclist with a high flat or mountain skill, just have an advantage The beginning isn't fair at all, you just have to be lucky. Just as now, you have to be lucky to put your best riders in Tirreno. I didn't oh so true, and those riders with the 4 on flat or mountain will have it easy to contain their advantage as they rake in more price money, can buy a better trainer, faster youth scout etc... let's just hope they have no experience in this game so we can still catch up with our dirty tricks
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Post by diable on Oct 6, 2011 22:21:55 GMT 1
The problem is not the riders who start high on skills and got lucky. The problem is imo the FA 20 till skills that high. So someone who was lucky to get a 4 flat rider will stay dominant over a 3 flat rider for about a whole season, certainly now when the riders don't have a CA anymore. And indeed gets a lot more money out of it. Also cause the 4 flat rider will probably win a lot more, his mood will be up to the highest level soon, which makes it even more of a problem. And there is not much to do about that dominance until the FA is gonna speak how talented someone is.
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Post by Quatannens on Oct 6, 2011 22:50:04 GMT 1
The problem is not the riders who start high on skills and got lucky. The problem is imo the FA 20 till skills that high. So someone who was lucky to get a 4 flat rider will stay dominant over a 3 flat rider for about a whole season, certainly now when the riders don't have a CA anymore. And indeed gets a lot more money out of it. Also cause the 4 flat rider will probably win a lot more, his mood will be up to the highest level soon, which makes it even more of a problem. And there is not much to do about that dominance until the FA is gonna speak how talented someone is. That's not completely true. You are right about the mood He will get up in mood and only get better untill 7 flat, but you will be able to beat him. Now it's impossible with a flat=2, as I told in my example. But when your cyclist has 4 flat and his has 6 (still 2 levels difference!) you will be able to beat him when you use more fitness. (100%*4=4>70%*6=3.6) Of course, it's way easier for the guy with high flat skill to win some races, now he can just go on 70% and win a lot. Next season 85% will still be enough. But it's too late to do something about the starting skills. I wasn't lucky, some other were. Let's just hope it won't create a huge gap between teams.
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Post by diable on Oct 6, 2011 23:40:36 GMT 1
I said he would be more dominant, I didn't say he was gonna be untouchable. ;-) But indeed, a couple of 4 flatters can beat him on 6 on higher effort, though i doubt there will be a timegap if the mood of the 6 flatter is 3 levels higher. So in tours where flat is the most important skill I think he won't have much trouble to win anyway. You can steal some euros from him by going on higher effort, but that will be it I think.
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Post by Il Padrino on Oct 7, 2011 11:43:22 GMT 1
Compensations will be given to those who won a jersey (or more). Before the update, too It will most likely be a fixed amount, because it's a lot of (manual) work to recalculate exactly how much each team won according to the situation in its division.
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Post by lee1950 on Oct 7, 2011 12:02:50 GMT 1
Thanks, IP! Your extra work for the Game is really appreciated!!
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Post by maxz on Oct 7, 2011 12:38:55 GMT 1
Wait... Only for who won? And 2nd and 3d and so on???
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Post by zottepeet on Oct 7, 2011 12:55:08 GMT 1
Het is al iets als de winnaar krijgt waar hij recht op heeft
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Post by diable on Oct 7, 2011 13:25:10 GMT 1
Nope, I think IP shouldn't, as then the ones who ended second and third in the generals, will be disadvantaged a lot more then the first ones are disadvantaged at this moment.
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Post by Mike on Oct 7, 2011 13:49:46 GMT 1
reset the game
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kevinvl
U23 Developm. Team
kevin_vl - Cycling Team Jos (276)
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Post by kevinvl on Oct 7, 2011 14:20:24 GMT 1
Nope, I think IP shouldn't, as then the ones who ended second and third in the generals, will be disadvantaged a lot more then the first ones are disadvantaged at this moment. doesn't seem fair to me either time jersey: 2/3 green jersey: 3/4/6/10 mountain jersey: 2/5 So no extra money for me?
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