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Post by walt on Nov 10, 2008 19:47:02 GMT 1
Hi again,
I'm trying to get integrated in calculating somehow the FA of my cyclers. Read some stuff on the forum already.
Now I noted my riders' values before yesterday's update. One of my riders' value is 1466 higher, but how is that possible when I'm training on fitness. What is raising than?
And if I f.i. train my riders on flat, and the raise is 1500. Does that mean that in my rider will raise in that skill every 7 weeks. (6,6666 weeks). Seven times 1500 = 10500 and for every 10k ther is a skill-raise. Right?
Thanks for helping.
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Post by Il Padrino on Nov 10, 2008 21:38:49 GMT 1
Could be that the cyclist was injured. That counts too for the TV. Also, skills train more slowly as they increase. A cyclist is not going to pop every 7 weeks until he reaches 20. By the way, the way TV is calculated is going to change real soon, so don't spend too much time trying to figure it out until then.  |
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Post by walt on Nov 11, 2008 9:15:32 GMT 1
Ok, good to know.
Thank you for the help.
I already thought that this vision was too simplistic.
But I suppose that it has something to do with that anyhow.
So I ll do it on this way till the moment the calculation method changes.
Hope it works out.
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Post by walt on Nov 17, 2008 10:59:36 GMT 1
What is happened to the transfer value?
They are all so low.
I have a rider with a TV of 82.000?
Is that new calculation method already implemented?
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Post by NikeBoy on Nov 17, 2008 11:38:11 GMT 1
Yes, you can read it in the announcement ...
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Post by ElGringo on Nov 18, 2008 13:15:04 GMT 1
Il Padrino can you tell us the most important diference between the older TV and the new? For us to have the notion of the development of the riders.
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Post by joachim1107 on Nov 18, 2008 14:12:36 GMT 1
I also have a question, for the transfervalue only the primary skills are taken: so that are the 8 visible and injury pronenes, FA and CA.
I understand that these 11 skills determin the TV. But in that case a cyclist with a higher injury proneness (so a higher chance on a injury) would be worth more than an equal cyclist with a lower chance on a injury.
I think that is not logic. Or did I understand something wrong?
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Post by Il Padrino on Nov 18, 2008 15:53:30 GMT 1
Il Padrino can you tell us the most important diference between the older TV and the new? For us to have the notion of the development of the riders. 2 most important difference: - Only the primary skills matter now for the TV - The TV increases exponentially with the skills. For example: Before: if 1 skill point = €10.000, then 2 skill points = €20.000, 3 = €30.000, and so on. Now: if 1 skill point = €10.000, then 2 skill points = €25.000, 3 = 50.000, and so on. (numbers are fictional, by the way) |
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Post by thib555 on Nov 18, 2008 17:03:04 GMT 1
1 skill point = 10.000 ? Is that still right in the new system?
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Post by bigollie on Nov 18, 2008 17:36:35 GMT 1
what are the numbers? i've found them nigh on impossible to calculate, i'll need weeks of training data to come to a sound conclusion.
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Post by Il Padrino on Nov 18, 2008 17:48:58 GMT 1
1 skill point = 10.000 ? Is that still right in the new system? Numbers are fictional (as said in the topic above yours). And no, I'm not going to give away the formula or the values.  It's not a difficult formula, so you'll be able to find out pretty fast, I think. |
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Post by thib555 on Nov 18, 2008 17:50:44 GMT 1
Yes I know the numbers where fictional but I was wondering of the first was still right.. But I understand you can't tell..
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Post by bigollie on Nov 18, 2008 21:06:54 GMT 1
no, you're wrong. apply the trusted favourite of e=mc2 and you'll be fine.
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Post by bigollie on Nov 18, 2008 23:05:26 GMT 1
i've cracked it. I had my team at NASA working round the clock on the formula but they were useless. I managed to work this one out by myself using a codebreaking tool found in a christmas cracker. Anybody want to borrow it?
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Post by ElGringo on Nov 19, 2008 11:48:53 GMT 1
Il Padrino can you tell us the most important diference between the older TV and the new? For us to have the notion of the development of the riders. 2 most important difference: - Only the primary skills matter now for the TV - The TV increases exponentially with the skills. For example: Before: if 1 skill point = €10.000, then 2 skill points = €20.000, 3 = €30.000, and so on. Now: if 1 skill point = €10.000, then 2 skill points = €25.000, 3 = 50.000, and so on. (numbers are fictional, by the way) There is something that dont seems right :S Example I have a rider with 12 points total of primary skills and TV 100.804, making the calcutation it will be 1 st point =x 2 nd point=2.5*x 3 th point=2*(2.5*x) 4 th point=2*(5*x) ....... Making the acount for all points=12 x+(2.5*x)+(5*x)+(10*x)+(20*x)+(40*x)+(80*x)+(160*x)+(320*x)+(640*x)+(1280*x)+(2560*x)= 100.804 I will have and x= 0.0197 And this is the value of x for all riders, but when i use this value to confirm the TV of another player dont match :S |
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